hey BigDog800.....

[Rubberdown]

You want a free lift kit for that RZR of yours?????

I'll need a few pics of the suspension and some measurments but it shouldnt be too hard to make from that. This is how I came up with my Ranger kit with the help of Scottginfla.

Let me know either way, if your not interested, I'll post it somewhere else with more RZR owners, but I figured I see if you were interested first ;)

Paul.

[Bigdog800EFI]

I have been out of town for a while. My son needed surgery so we were down at Childrens Hospital. Evey thing is going good now. Sure let me know what you need for pictures and I will get them set out to you.

[Rubberdown]

Do you have a set of dial or digital vernier calipers? I would need pictures of the shock mounts, both front and back, top and bottom, then I would send them back to you all marked up with arrows and you would need to take some measurments and fill in the blanks. Also, pictures of the sway bar linkage like on the sportsmans and rangers.

This is how I got my Ranger kit made up with the help of Scottginfla, and the first kit was good enough to use, but the second kit was perfect.

E-mail me pics to heyhercrubberdown@yahoo.ca

[Rubberdown]

BTW, how is your son doing, how old is he and what needed to be operated on??? Is he going to be okay?

[Bigdog800EFI]

He's 13 and doing just fine. He has a seziure disorder and it involved an implant he had 3.5 years ago. Yes I have a caliper. The machine is back at the dealer as a display but I can go over there and take some picture tomorrow.

[Rubberdown]

glad to here he is okay, tell him we are wishing him well at the ruberdown home.

Okay, so go take some pics, from different angles if you can and make sure you name the pics what they actually are, front top, front bottom, rear top etc etc, and take a couple wider angle shots so I can see the entire suspension setup as a whole.

Thanks dude.

[Bigdog800EFI]

Ok, I am back home again. I will get the measurments for you today.

[PoPoRZR]

So how is all this coming out???

["Bankrupt"]

hope you get it worked out and set the market with this lift RD.

ive seen a few but they look to be the typical junk lifts i see all the time. people got in a rush and didnt put any time into it.

[Rubberdown]

hopefully this weekend I'll have it done..... I'll keep you all posted ;)

[Turk]

The more I look at the RZR the more I want one.Polaris really pulled a good one outta bag with that RZR.

[PoPoRZR]

Mine sure is fun...When i get it all done it is going to water wheelie...

[Rubberdown]

Kits ready buddy, I should be heading over on Tuesday to mail some stuff so I'll send it out then. Did I ever get your mailing info...probably, I'm pretty forgetfull though LOL, I'll look for it, I probaby have it in my PM's or e-mail in-box or something....

[Bigdog800EFI]

PM sent

[PoPoRZR]

UH OH MY RZR is getting closer and closer to self destruction...HAHAHAHA I might have asked this but i forgot...Will i need anything like springs or anything wen i order the kit RD??

[Bigdog800EFI]

I will have one side taken apart and ready to fit. I kept it home this week just waiting for you RD. I will take a bunch of picture on the install

[PoPoRZR]

PLZ take loads of them I have never installed a lift and i will need all the input i can have when i get the second rd kit :P I build racing lawnmowers though so i shoudl be able to do that...I will post soem pics of the lawnmowers if you guys want to see them??

[Rubberdown]

Nope. Just The Kit Buddy ;)

[PoPoRZR]

Thats cool i posted in my sig on HL 2' rubberdown lift coming soon...So technically i'm not advertising but they will knwo that rubberdown makes a lift for the rzr...If anyone asks i will send them over here...You goign to sale the kit for about 160 like the ranger kit??I need to know what to tell them in a pm so they know HL is ripping them off :P

[Rubberdown]

I was thinking $175 shipped and insured, we'll see how that gors and then adjust if needed. There is a bit more work involved on these than the lifts with the aluminum front kits, not so much more material cost, but more labor cost for welding and slower machining times since its all machined steel

[PoPoRZR]

Ok That is what i will tell i still get the 2nd one for the price you gave me right? I just sold that sportsman lift i had so i got 90 saved for it :D

[Rubberdown]

Ya dude, you still get the "introductory" price ;) But lets just get the forst one out there and see how she fits and works out for the bigdog okay.

[PoPoRZR]

Aight man...

[BIG_T]

RD, be very very careful when messing with the rear lower shock mounts. The rear brake line goes under the shock and it has to be able to move. I hope you account for that. Do you know what I'm talking about?
If that line can't slide back and forth nicely it is going to kill the brake line and then you lose brakes.

[Bigdog800EFI]

RD, be very very careful when messing with the rear lower shock mounts. The rear brake line goes under the shock and it has to be able to move. I hope you account for that. Do you know what I'm talking about?
If that line can't slide back and forth nicely it is going to kill the brake line and then you lose brakes.


The design is taking that in account. I have some pictures but I will wait to see if RD posts them or if he wants me to.

[Rubberdown]

go for it bigdog, let it be seen ;)

[Bigdog800EFI]

I few pictures of the install.

[Bigdog800EFI]

Before and after. All shock are on the softest setting. 1.75 inces gain with the lift and another .5 with the tires

[BIG_T]

Have you run the rear suspension through full travel to make sure the fitting doesn't hit or damage the brake line or fitting? It's hard to tell from the picture, but it looks close.

Awesome job though on the lift RD, you shoulda been an engineer.

[Rubberdown]

Thanks for the compliment BIGT, i actually like to engineer a lot of the fixtures and designs we use on a regular basis to make the cutting tools we do at work but I never did go to school for engineering LOL, its just something I like to do. I look at something long enough and try to make it EASIER for the user to do or EASIER for the machines to grind or machine the parts.

As for the rear suspension and brake line, 1 change needs to be made and it will have that rear lift block sitting good and solid with plenty of room for the brake line to move around in.

[PoPoRZR]

That thing looks awesome...I still got money waiting for the man with the plan....:clap2: So how hard was the install man??

[Rubberdown]

That thing looks awesome...I still got money waiting for the man with the plan....:clap2: So how hard was the install man??

Obviously I wasnt there, but I'd have to guess its less than an hour with air tools. Vern is going to put together some detailed instal instructions for me when he has some time and then I will get started on your kit buddy.

[PoPoRZR]

No Problem man...It is amazing how much a lift, rims and tires can help a ride...Awesome job rubberdown build a lift without seeing a ride that is awesome...

[Rubberdown]

its not the first time, I did the Ranger the same way. Believe me, I wish I had all the machines at my finger tips to do my R&D work but I dont.

[PoPoRZR]

Well when you want your money I have it...I'm just waiting on you bro....

[Bigdog800EFI]

Less that an hour. I am working on the directions right now. If you look at the one picture in an earlier post with the red line on it. There was a spacer in there that I removed, other than that it was smooth as glass.

[PoPoRZR]

Cool...SO it seems to ride good and just bolt up huh??

[Bigdog800EFI]

Got a few more miles on it this last weekend. works flawlessly. It seems to have a firmer ride. I am not sure why, maybe with the slight change in shock angle. I have the shocks set on the lowest setting and works great. Love how it looks and the the lift is built rock solid.

[PoPoRZR]

That is just awesome man....:jaw:

[Rubberdown]

That is just awesome man....:jaw:

Yours is built, I just need to have it welded once da Bigdog gives me the thumbs up.

[PoPoRZR]

You just send me a pm of where to send the money with paypal and it will be there whenever you want it...

[Bigdog800EFI]

Second generation is installed. Paul give me a call, I have a question for you. I sent you a pm with my number.

[OnlyPolaris]

looks good. and by that last pic it looks like the axles dont even have that much angle or stress on them.

[Bigdog800EFI]

Just got it Paul. I will go install it right now.

[Bigdog800EFI]

Third generation is a go. with the 26" mud Gears there is enough clearence for me to be comfortable. I installed a set of 27" swamplites on 14" Torqs. and they clear the motor mount but if the side lug was any taller you will have to run spacers. The quality of the lift is so far beyond any other lift I have ever seen. Hats off to you Paul.

[Rubberdown]

Thanks Vern, any chance you can put your stock tires on to check the clearance issues with the stock tires and let me know if you can run the lift with stockers???

Thanks again.

Hey, how do you like the popo lifts? I also have Ranger lifts too brother ;)

[PoPoRZR]

Well i havent heard anything from last week...I was going to see if the fix fixed it???

[Bigdog800EFI]

Just a bit more tweeking. Rear is perfect, just a few more things to try on the front.

[Rubberdown]

parts went out today PRIORITY, I made it like you said, I dropped that hole 1/2" and if it still has shock interfearence, you can flip them and then you have another 1/2" to use up. I hope this is it, I got about a 1/2 dozen dudes on a waiting list now LOL. And if we dont get it soon, I just might have to come and see you for a couple days to get it all worked out LOL.

[PoPoRZR]

My fine saleing.....My grandfathers a salesman my dads a salesman...I sale a lil but i'm damn good at it.... :D I never even seen the lift and sold i know one for you :D

[Bigdog800EFI]

RD this one will work. ;) Did you make up a 6mm spacer

[Rubberdown]

Sorry buddy, I didnt have time to make that, if you get this kit to work and you can use those washers you were using for now, I'll get you the 6mm spacer out as soon as I finish off PoPoRZR's kit and send them out to you.

PoPoRZR, trust me, you will be happy you waited, you will not only save yourself about $100, but you will have the best RZR 2" lift kit you can find ;)

[Bigdog800EFI]

No prob. I can make one up.

[PoPoRZR]

I wouldnt run any other lift....I only run the best.....Plus i consider you a friend (even though I never met you) and that my friend makes up for a lot....

[Rincon1906]

Hey bigdog what offset is your torqs? I just got a RZR yesterday and I want to run the black torqs I was told if i get the right offset I will not have to run spacers on it.

Also I might just have to get me one of these lifts after yall run them for a while.

[Rubberdown]

I wouldnt run any other lift....I only run the best.....Plus i consider you a friend (even though I never met you) and that my friend makes up for a lot....


Thanks buddy, feelings are mutual :tea:

[Bigdog800EFI]

Mine are 4+3 I think they make 2+5

[Rincon1906]

What is the best way to go in your oppinion wheels spacers or the correct offset to not use them.

[OnlyPolaris]

i heard on the hl forum that there rzr lift requires you to drill a hole in one of the shock mounts or something like that. sounds like a lot of people are a little iffy about having to modify stuff. so looks like you have the best dezined lift to.

[Bigdog800EFI]

RDs lift there is no drilling. I thought we had the final lift design the other day , But RD asked me to try the stock tires. Put them back on and that is what we are working on right know. I beleive they are drilling a hole for the sway bar connect. Paul is designing the lift so there is no cutting or drilling.

[PoPoRZR]

So how is this lift coming along??

[Bigdog800EFI]

Still tweeking. The next one will be it.

[Rubberdown]

Ya, when I get the part back from Bigdog, it should be no more than a week to get the final bugs worked out for stock wheels and tires to run with this kit. That seems to be the only issue we were having is the stock wheels with a stock offset on the front.

[Bigdog800EFI]

All set, letr' roll.

[PoPoRZR]

been waiting ont hat type of message????OH RD LOL

[Bigdog800EFI]

Paul is working on the directions right now. It took a while to get it right but let me tell you. It is right. I may be the pickiest guy Paul ever had to deal with but the lift is awesome!!! Pictures tomorrow if the sun come up. Supposed to rain all day.

[PoPoRZR]

I am a man...I dont use directions....LOL

[Bigdog800EFI]

well then, when you get stumped on the install you can just call me.

[PoPoRZR]

Aye drink enough beer and put together like a puzzle :D

[Rubberdown]

I would like to thank Bigdog800EFI for all the help on this project, and although he might sound picky when we were working together, thats exactly what I need, I dont want to slap some cheap peice of shit together and sell it if its got my name on it, I'm not that kind of machinist so if Vern says its good, i know its good and I am happy its finally ready, but I am not unhappy that it took the time it did, perfection takes time.

Vern, I'll e-mail you those instructions tonight and everywhere it says "INSERT PICTURE HERE" thats where I will insert a picture of the above instruction so if you could maybe pull it off on one side front and back one more time to snap a few more pics, that would be greatly appreciated. When I get home from my moose hunt, I will put it all together.

[Rincon1906]

Well as soon as I get some more funds RD you can put me down for one. My tires are rubbing on the front when I turn with the springs turned all the way up.

[PoPoRZR]

Just checking see how it was coming along the ol RZR sure looks lonely out there without this kit on :D

[Rubberdown]

Its ready and in my basement drying now buddy. I am going to have to take some good pictures of all the parts for my parts lift, and stuff like that for my instructions though okay. I will probably be able to ship you your kit Saturday ;)

Sorry about the delay eh, seriously, it took a while to get it PERFECTED and then I was out of town for just over a week. I'll have pics posted later tonight on this site as well as the PRC Rangers site.

Paul.

[Bigdog800EFI]

Rd if you want, tell people to PM me on the site if they have questions on the install. What makes sence to you and I may confuse a normal person. HEHE

["Bankrupt"]

well put me down for 3 paul.

per the pm i sent you i think hes going to go ahead and get 3 of the 2" ones.

[PoPoRZR]

No problem man I will prolly go ahead and pay you friday if you will send me your paypal info and all....That way i will have that out of the way..:D

[Rubberdown]

Okay, heres the complete kit, front and rear and all the hardware.......

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j158/rubberdown/completekit.jpg

[Rubberdown]

RZR Front Instructions

Lift the RZR off the ground with a floor jack of some sort and pull the tires off
Remove the lower shock bolt and pull the lower part of the shock out of the way as well as the end of the front sway bar .
Make sure all the bolts go into ALL of the holes with the threads pointing towards the FRONT of the machine.
Put a 3” bolt through hole “A” of the Sway bar offset plate, and then slide 2 washers onto the bolt up against the sway bar offset plate.

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j158/rubberdown/Stabalizerplate.jpg

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j158/rubberdown/100_0088.jpg


Place the lift block into the space that the shock was in with the stabilizing center tab pointing towards the tire. Slide the bolt that goes through hole “A” and the 2 washers into the lower shock mounting hole and put a nut on the end of the bolt, but don’t tighten it just yet. Put the lower end of the shock into position in the top part of the lift block and slide a 3” bolt through hole “B” of the Sway bar offset plate, the top hole in the lift AND the end of the shock, now put a nut on the bolt, don’t tighten it just yet.

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j158/rubberdown/front-2.jpg

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j158/rubberdown/front-1.jpg

Put the end of the sway bar in line with hole “C” of the sway bar offset plate and slide a 2” bolt through the sway bar end and then through hole “C” and put a nut on the end.
Now you can tighten all the nuts in place.


RZR Rear instructions

Pull tire off and remove lower shock bolt and pull the lower end of the shock out of the way. Place lift block into space that the shock was in with the stabilizing center tab pointing towards the tire. Slide the original stock bolt through the lower lift block holes to fasten the lift block into place in the original lower shock mounting position. Slide the shock into the lift block and use a 2-1/2”bolt to fasten it into place and put the nut on and tighten.

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j158/rubberdown/010.jpg

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j158/rubberdown/005-1.jpg

Install tire and repeat on opposite side.

[Rubberdown]

Parts List

2 front lift blocks

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j158/rubberdown/frontliftblocks.jpg

2 rear lift blocks.

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j158/rubberdown/rearliftblocks.jpg

3/8” flat washers – 4 pcs.
3” long bolts – 4 pcs.
2-1/2” long bolts – 2 pcs.
2” long bolts – 2 pcs.
3/8” Nylock nuts – 8 pcs.
Front sway bar offset plates – 2pcs.

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j158/rubberdown/hardware.jpg

[Rubberdown]

Let me know if that looks simple enough Vern and PoPoRZR???? Thanks.

[PoPoRZR]

Aye the pictures really cleared what you wrote up...With out pics the thread would be worthless... :D I think If people take there time It will go on simple enough....

[Bigdog800EFI]

You may also want to say that the sablizer bar on the front is much easier to reinstall with both sides disconected.

[SCRAMMYTODD]

Well now I know what to do whenever I get a RZR. Probably won't happen for a year or two as my SP 500 isn't even a year old yet LOL

[Rincon1906]

Put me down on your list rubberdown.

[Rubberdown]

You got it Rincon1906, you are down for kit # 18 @ $169.00 U.S. for the introductory offer. After the first 20 kits are spoken for they will go to $189.00 U.S. shipped.

[PoPoRZR]

Them kits are saleing like hotcakes :D

[Rubberdown]

Yup :nod: :thumb: :biggrin1: :peace: :rockon: :first:

[PoPoRZR]

I GOT THE LIFT TODAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Excellent quality!!!!!Very Nice product Going to start on it today and finish it up tommorrow If i dont get it all done today....I took some pictures...Nw i got to get some of the rzr unlifted and If I see anything on my way installing that makes it easier i will post it and post some pics.....THANKS again RD!!!!

[Bigdog800EFI]

Put down your purse, it will get done faster. Just kiddin. You should be able to get it done in less than an hour.

[PoPoRZR]

DONE!!!!1st lift easy install.....Excellent product will get pictures when tommorrow when the sun is shining.....I got from 12.5 inch in the back to 15inches.....SITTING TALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Thanks again RD For fine products!!!!!!!!

[PoPoRZR]

Oh yeah i forgot to tell all of you my shocks are in the LOWEST setting I can lift it more with a turn of a wrench....:D

["Bankrupt"]

what tires you running?

[PoPoRZR]

27 mud lite

[mrwilliamsrzr]

wheres the pics man?\

[mrwilliamsrzr]

found them..never mind.. im dumb

[Turk]

Hey Bigdog do you have any HC clutch kits available??

[Turk]

Would it better if I checked with COB over at the QS forum?? No big deal but I'm ready to get a HC for the SP500HO.Let me know.

[Bigdog800EFI]

I have one in stock 200.00 shipped

[Turk]

Ok sounds good i'll pm ya.

[Turk]

Ok pm sent so check your messages.