Question for the Rincon guys using my lift kit????

[Rubberdown]

I was recently asked if spring compressors are really needed to do this install. Now I know that at the time I installed the first 2 kits I made, I used them because they were at the garage where I installed the kits, and it did make it easier obviously. BUT, have any of you guys done it without spring compressors? How did you find it putting the shock into the lift block when it was fully sprung?

thanks guys.

[mac102004]

I've done it without. I put the top in first, then pry the bottom into place with a pry bar. Nothin to it.

[Jonathan]

I have my dealer put your lift on with you instrustions. They said they could not get the wholes to line up without using a spring compressor. Thats all I know about it cause I never had my Rincon before the lift was installed. By the way, everything is still working great!

[Rubberdown]

Thanks guys.

[dirtlegrincon07]

Can I get one of your lifts?

[Rubberdown]

Certainly ;)

[littlegrasshopper]

I used a pry bar to support the shock and tapped on the shock with a rubber mallet. The shock slid right down the bar and into the shock pocket then I used the pry bar to pry the shock up just a tad to slide the bolt in. Really easy if you ask me. The hard part was bolting the rear shock supports in. The bolts were hard to match up and there's not much room in there to work with.

I would guess that the spring compressors would be easy but it would take longer.

[coletrain270]

im sorry about this but i got the highlifter lift before i found this site and all i know is that i had to use a spring compresion kit to do the job and it was a b..ch. i got it done though


2006 rincon 680, hmf pipe,hmf efi programer,k@n air and oil filter, ICAT,highlifter lift kit ,trd gear reduction kit,28" OUTlawsand im running 93 octain with about half of 113 octain vp racing fuel.

[Rubberdown]

Thats okay coletrail, welcome to the forum :)

[08Rinney]

Ok i didnt use them on the front. I havent gotten to the back yet but i just got it in the mail yesterday. Thanks for the quick ship Paul!!! It did however take me a while to get the front done. Maybe im no mechanic i dont know about the older models but it sure is tight up in there on the 08, but so far so good if i can get it finished today i will post pics.

[njrincon]

when I installed my R.D. lift the only thing I took off was the wheels.It was a little tight on the back,front was no problem.I didn`t see any need for a compressor,didn`t have one either!
by the way Paul, thanks lift works great,t-shirts look good,but that bottle opener has been taking a beating

[indeep]

I took alum piece off sway bar,then it went pretty good! I really like my lift!

[HAACRINCON]

i just got mine at the caledonia swap meet, works and looks great, i used a strong ratchet strap and a small pry bar...worked sweeeeet.....

[dcfox]

Hope this isn't out of bounds...but I have a question...
On RinconRiders.com...XtremeATVer said that he solved the issue with his 3" lift where the rear upper arms were hitting the sway bar brackets by reattaching them above the upper arm after installing the lift.
Would this also help on your lift or is it unnecessary?
Indeep said he made extension brackets for his to eliminate the problem.I'm just curious if swapping the brackets to the top would work also.

[littlegrasshopper]

I still don't see how that would work. Mine is close to hitting mounted in the stock form and the only way it would hit is if there was no weight on that side and the tire was in ther air. I am alomost positive that I mounted mine on the top side when I put my lift on. It looked right until I sat it down off the jacks and it hit the a arms. Maybe some Rincons have a different "index" (can't find a better word for it) on the sway bar itself. I know it rotates and has tension but I really don't know how it works (maybe a spring or something).

I say try it and if it works then great but it's not gonna be a fix for all the machines.

[dcfox]

Makes perfect sense.
I'll check out the clearances either way when I finally get time to get out there and install my lift kit.

[FireMedic]

I just put mine on about 2 days ago, and the front was a piece of cake. The rear was kinda tricky, but not to tough. I disconnected the sway bar fron the upper control arm, then put the bottom in first. I took a long pry bar and slid the shock down the pry bar to the mounting hole. When I was done, i flipped the aluminum rod that connects to the sway bar up towards the seat to keep it from hitting the control arm. Works great!!

[dcfox]

Can you snap a pic of the sway bar clearance reconnected after the lift?

[FireMedic]

I'm working today dc, don't get off til 0800 tomorrow, but I will snap some pics and post tomorrow.

[FireMedic]

OK dc, here ya go. My wife wasn't here, so I had to sit on the rack to take the pics! Hope they help. The left side connector (as you will see) is at a wierd angle but there is plenty of room, however the left side is good to go. When I took the pic of the left side, it wasn't under a load. There is about 3" between the black box and the sway bar on the right side. The rear is a little more stiff, but I like that. The sway bar is over the control arm now. I haven't ridden it hard yet, but I think that will keep it from breaking the connectors and not have to lenghten the sway bar. I'll be testing it out tomorrow, so I'll let you know how it did.

[Rubberdown]

There is a couple guys that have taken the actual sway bar and rotated it so the ends are more parralel to the ground rather than pointing to the ground, then the connecting rod or linkage goes over the a-arms and it seems to ride GREAT for these guys. I have some pics of it, and I was going to add this to my instructions just as soon as I get a friends friends ATV here to do an install and some research on the sway bar rotation option....

[FireMedic]

You just described what I did RD. My sway bar is straight across, and the linkage is over the a-arm. I just didn't take pictures of it. Have they had any problems with the angles on the linkage going from the a-arm to the sway bar? Or clearance problems?

[dcfox]

Paul...I checked the clearance with the suspension unloaded...
With the swaybar connected the same as before the lift...the bars hit the arms pretty bad.
With it flipped above...there is now plenty of clearance.

BTW...measured lift at the front,side,and rear... 2 3/4".(this is after riding it around the yard to let the suspension settle).


Also...word of warning...if you choose to not use a spring compressor to compress the rear springs...and instead use a prybar...

BE CAREFUL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have a really nice black eye now...and a massive headache.(I'm lucky it's not worse).

PM to you Paul.

[Rubberdown]

Geeeezzz dude, be carefull with that method, I think I even warn about that method dont I? I know guys have done it, but its always scarey playing with these springs under load without compressors.

Hope your okay and the headache goes away. As for the black eye, if anyone asks, just tell em they should see how bad the other guy looks ;)

[FireMedic]

I tested my lift out yesterday. Man what a difference! That thing rides like a dream. I went places that I just looked at last week. I had no idea that a Rinny could float so well or that a lift would change the ride that much. Sorry to hear about your eye dc. Paul, you da man! Thanks for the can opener, it also got a workout yesterday! I'm glad I went with the RD lift.

[dcfox]

Thanks for the concerns.
I think I actually cracked the eye socket below my eye...close to my nose.May go in a couple days for an x-ray...we'll see.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v84/dcfox/Rincon/ouch.jpg

Ok...I promised lift pics too.

Here's the before...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v84/dcfox/Rincon/Rincon01.jpg

And here's the after...
(sorry for the cruddy pics.It's dark out so I just rolled it out in the yard and snapped a quick shot)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v84/dcfox/Rincon/lift1.jpg

[FireMedic]

Eye don't look too bad. Couple of days to get x-ray won't show much. It will be healing pretty good by then. Rincon is looking pretty good though. You have to send me pics of your snorkle install.

[transamjoe]

i just bought a rd lift and installed it myself. just like everyone else has said the front was a peice of cake. the rear was a little more difficult. But after fighting with the front shock with a pry bar i decided to try a short 1" ratchet strap. Taking the strap apart and running the loose end through the loop in the hook and sliding the shock in the hoop i just made. Found a solid point to hook the ratchet and cranked down a little on the strap. Needless to say i found this to be the easiest way i could have down it without getting a compressor. ( basicly a homemade redneck spring compressor ) Just my 2cents though!!! :lalala:

[steve 680]

I recieved my rd lift today.Ill be installin it this weekend also.Ill post before and after pics as i get them.

[TrailMaker]

I want a lift kit. Does it change the camber? How much for kit plus shipping to 29464

[Rubberdown]

price is in your other thread ;)

[huntingbigj]

i used a prybar like most people. i was actually able to use my man power to compress the front shocks in place. but the rear needed a prybar. not to be Di@$ but the rear aluminum pice that reciecieved, the holed didnt line up and couldnt install rear until i Drilled out the rear piece, which mad my rear sit slightly uneven. I am not going to be a person that i going to be loyal to Rubberdowns customs products when the machineing is off. I will admit i rides good. (thought keeping mind i havent had any other lift to compare to. and on the rear my CV boots sliped off the axle. which is expected when pushing the axle to their limits. But definately makes me mad when i pay damn near $150 for 3 pieces of aluminum i could weld together myself if i had a argon tank.

[dcfox]

i used a prybar like most people. i was actually able to use my man power to compress the front shocks in place. but the rear needed a prybar. not to be Di@$ but the rear aluminum pice that reciecieved, the holed didnt line up and couldnt install rear until i Drilled out the rear piece, which mad my rear sit slightly uneven. I am not going to be a person that i going to be loyal to Rubberdowns customs products when the machineing is off. I will admit i rides good. (thought keeping mind i havent had any other lift to compare to. and on the rear my CV boots sliped off the axle. which is expected when pushing the axle to their limits. But definately makes me mad when i pay damn near $150 for 3 pieces of aluminum i could weld together myself if i had a argon tank.

You know...a simple PM to Paul about a problem does wonders.
I had the same problem and Paul solved it w/o even questioning it.
Any time a product is mass produced...there is going to be flaws.
I don't think there was a need to slam the RD lift w/o at least contacting Paul first.
Having dealt with customer service from several companies over the years...i'd say that Paul's CS is far above and beyond any that I've experienced anywhere else.
Give him a shout...you'll more than likely be pleasantly surprised in the outcome...unless you are one of those people that can't possibly be pleased w/o complete and utter perfection at all times.We're human beings...sometimes you have to cut us a little slack.

[Rubberdown]

i used a prybar like most people. i was actually able to use my man power to compress the front shocks in place. but the rear needed a prybar. not to be Di@$ but the rear aluminum pice that reciecieved, the holed didnt line up and couldnt install rear until i Drilled out the rear piece, which mad my rear sit slightly uneven. I am not going to be a person that i going to be loyal to Rubberdowns customs products when the machineing is off. I will admit i rides good. (thought keeping mind i havent had any other lift to compare to. and on the rear my CV boots sliped off the axle. which is expected when pushing the axle to their limits. But definately makes me mad when i pay damn near $150 for 3 pieces of aluminum i could weld together myself if i had a argon tank.

You should have told me it was off, unless you are one of the 2 or 3 that have done that, in which case I would have offered a few solutions and left the choice up to you on which one you wanted to go with.

As for the rear holes being slightly off, there was recently a customer that brought this to my attention and since then, I have made a nice jig so that everything stays aligned when it is welded together.

If you are unhappy with the kit, I will gladly give you a full refund if you want to send it back, that has never been a problem for me, I wouldnt want you to have something you arent happy with, thats just bad for business plain and simple.

Paul.

[TWilson]

I put mine in without the spring compressors. Just a little muscle not a big deal.

[TrailMaker]

How are you guys correcting the toe in. As the front suspension goes up and down it is changing the toe a good bit. Could some kind of tie rod spacer or block be made to go between the wheel knuckle and tie rod end. Seems if the tie rod was more level it would not change the toe when the suspension was compressed.

[huntingbigj]

Hey thanks dcfox. Yes i should consulted Paul before i got a little hot and posted my thaught. Your right Paul is a heck of a guy. I sent him a PM and respond very quickly and proffessional. He is going to ship me a new rear block free of charge! Thanks Again Paul.

[Rubberdown]

not a problem at all.

[littlegrasshopper]

How are you guys correcting the toe in. As the front suspension goes up and down it is changing the toe a good bit. Could some kind of tie rod spacer or block be made to go between the wheel knuckle and tie rod end. Seems if the tie rod was more level it would not change the toe when the suspension was compressed.



My toe was pretty far in after I installed my lift. I adjusted the toe and all is fine now. It's not that hard just kinda tight getting inside the wheel wells to do the adjusting (and rememebering which way to turn the nut)!

[bigred2004]

I do have a question myself... ive been reading alot on here and I PMd RD about it, with the lift does the rear camber get really bad?? Ive seen a couple pictures with nobody on the 4-wheeler and it looks terrible...

[torkmonster]

I know the one mattdtru has on his rinny looks good.. Not a problem out of his.. Don't know if the bikes are different from one year to the next though....

[FireMedic]

Here's before and after,, you be the judge...

[850PoPo]

Im very happy with my RD lift, when I set on it sets factory height with no one it when I get off it sets very tall 350 miles no problem at all.This maybe isn't making any sense! Let me try again you know when you set on your bike factory it squat's alot With the RD lift the Squat isn't that bad ( try to read this slow i'm not great at explaining stuff )

[bigred2004]

Ok well those pictures answered my questions. Ive just been doin research on gettin a new honda and this lift is the only way to go without breakin the bank. Would the highlifter springs work with this lift or is that too much angle on the cvjoints? Im only about 155 lbs..... so it wouldnt squat much.

[850PoPo]

IMO don't think that would be a good ideal !!

[Mole]

Ok well those pictures answered my questions. Ive just been doin research on gettin a new honda and this lift is the only way to go without breakin the bank. Would the highlifter springs work with this lift or is that too much angle on the cvjoints? Im only about 155 lbs..... so it wouldnt squat much.

Personally I would not run HL springs with the RD lift kit but that's just me. You don't want too much angle on those CV's because one is more likely to break on you. What tires you are running and how hard you are on the throttle will only add to the possibility of one breaking also.

[FireMedic]

Paul told me NOT to run HL springs with his lift because it put the axle angles in too much of a bind.

[850PoPo]

Thats what I'm thinking mine sets tall enough with the RD lift even with the weight I put on it. If I wanted to go taller I would just go up on tire size not anything to heavy tho I was gona try 589's but I thought they were to heavy

[torkmonster]

Thats what I'm thinking mine sets tall enough with the RD lift even with the weight I put on it. If I wanted to go taller I would just go up on tire size not anything to heavy tho I was gona try 589's but I thought they were to heavy

Shoulda got them 589's there, but NOW I am liking them!!!! Don'tbelieve I'd come off mine there now...

You need to get ya some kind of good trail/MUD tire there for tha winter there......

[850PoPo]

Im just gonna use your Bighorns I'll rent them off you

[08Rinney]

I wouldnt go with the springs either, i have seen people that had them go back to stock
after putting the lift on.

[rinny08]

How much is ur lift for an 08 rincon fi?

[Jonathan]

How much is ur lift for an 08 rincon fi?

I am pretty sure it is still $135 shiped unless the shipping cost or metal cost has going up.

[earthmover]

I had no problem the hardest thing was getting your bolts through the block
I just had to swop the position of the standed one with the ones you supply

[Rubberdown]

How much is ur lift for an 08 rincon fi?


$140 U.S. in the U.S now, free shipping though

$160 Canadian in Canada, also with free shipping.

I have a "scratch and dent" lift I can sell you for 20$ off though, the front is brand new, the rear was installed but never used so it has a couple little scuffs on the powder coating but nothing major.

Let me know.

[Atomic_Sportsman]

but that bottle opener has been taking a beating

I didn't get no bottle opener!!!!

[Rubberdown]

LOL, gimmie gimmie gimmie...sorry but those WERE made in china, didnt want to offend you by sending you one LOL. Actually we ran out and never re-ordered more of them.

[Atomic_Sportsman]

LOL, gimmie gimmie gimmie...sorry but those WERE made in china, didnt want to offend you by sending you one LOL. Actually we ran out and never re-ordered more of them.

So the stickers were made in china too?

[Rubberdown]

LOL, no they were made in Canada but I forgot to send you some, got some new ones the other day, I'll bug Melissa to mail you some. BUT she says only if you leave some more cash on the night stand :eyebrows::jaw:

[Atomic_Sportsman]

As long as they don't smell like your water bed killers we should be all set. He still won't leave that box alone.