This is why you DONT wait till the last minute...HELP!!!! [Archive]

Rubberdown

08-30-2007, 09:20 PM

So I changed some fittings on my snorkels, not EXACTLY what you showed me Lee because my home depot didnt sell thois fittings in the white style and no barb that was a perfect fit. But anyways, the only snorkel leak was a small dripp at one of the barbs, the BIG leak is in the bottem rear section of my clutch housing. I took the cover off and cleaned the edge of the cover and the groove in the backing plate and I rinsed off the gasket and put it all back together and it still leaks.

So I need to either find a new gasket between now and around noon tomorrow or someone needs to give me a magic trick to seal it up....PLEEEEAAASE!!!

"Bankrupt"

08-30-2007, 09:25 PM

go to a auto parts store and buy a tube of the black silicone.

thats what i used. it dries quick and its not that hard to remove. my airbox lid was leaking like that and thats what i had to do to get it to seal up.

and how full are you getting it before the seal leaks? it will naturaly leak if you get it really really full because the pressure of the water will force open the seal. if its bad before it gets very much water thats not good. but if your getting leaks only after the the housing gets almost full it will be fine.

Dirtbmw20

08-30-2007, 09:27 PM

Paul, a trick I found on re-using the stock gasket for the clutch is every other time you put it back on, flip the gasket over. It puts the recessed lip on the back side and it's like pushing the cover up to a new gasket. The Home Depot around me didn't carry the barbbed fittings either, I had to go to Lowes to get them.

Clubin

08-30-2007, 09:28 PM

Actually, every time you remove the cvt cover you are supposed to change the gasket, they are cheap, they get squished out and don't seal. Nobody changes them everytime, including muself, if it looks good button it back up, you can try flipping the gasket over and trying that, might work in a pinch, but longterm I would strongly suggest instaling a new replacement.

Dirtbmw20

08-30-2007, 09:29 PM

I have filled mine ALL the way up to the top of the snorkel tubes and mine didn't leak. I stuck the garden hose into the snorkel tube and let it run until it came out the tube, cut the hose off and rolled the bike to a dry spot to let it sit, it sat like that for about 10 minutes full of water and never leaked one drop from the cover gasket.

Dirtbmw20

08-30-2007, 09:31 PM

I will re-use my gasket about 5-6 times before I replace it, just by flipping it over.

duse

08-30-2007, 09:33 PM

I used marine grease once and it got me through the trip.
Remove the gasket apply grease in the grove,replace the gasket.
I'v heard of guys useing athe gasket maker caulk.

duse

08-30-2007, 09:37 PM

When I first started typeing my reply there were no replys
8 minutes ,,,6 replies :lol:

Dirtbmw20

08-30-2007, 09:40 PM

LOL, dang duse, you type that slow ??? I hunt & peck with two fingers faster than that. :roll:

Rubberdown

08-30-2007, 09:43 PM

LOL, type faster buddy :D
That shit happens to me all the time too, I type with 2 fingers, one on each hand LOL

Riven

08-30-2007, 09:53 PM

Silicone would be the cheapest way.

Why not give Rickwards a call I see if he has one in stock & pick it up on you way through? 1-705-636-1596

We use some stuff called Flexerall *spelling?* at work & this stuff sticks like baby shit & it will stretch 1400%. This might be the best stuff for sealing the hose to the ABS pipe. It comes in tubes just like silicone & its not much more $$$.

Their is also Draft stop calking. Its designed to pull off so it might not be necessary to lube the gasket surface to be able to get it all off easily.

Rubberdown

08-30-2007, 10:08 PM

Thanks Jay, I will be calling him in the morning, then calling the dealer over the border, then the dealer in Hamilton, if that all fails, screw it, I'll just silicone it up when I get there and hope it sets by the next morning..... if I didnt have to work tomorrow, I'd try and flip it over but I dont want to be getting up there and setting up camp in the dark, I hate that, I wanna get into the MGD when its dark....

mailman

08-30-2007, 10:30 PM

RD, Goop. Canadian Tire has it. Get black. Works great on just about anything, especially waders.

duse

08-30-2007, 10:45 PM

LOL, dang duse, you type that slow ??? I hunt & peck with two fingers faster than that. :roll:

Yep,I type at blazeing speed of 5 words a minute
I new I should have stayed in school(3 years of 7th grade and I had enough)
If I stayed in school maybe I could of had a job" like sitting around wondering Where everybodys at ??? I'm bored to death at work and I'm about to fall asleep.I have tons of invoices to do before I go get a rectal exame:boink::D

Dirtbmw20

08-31-2007, 12:14 AM

:pound: LOL, I'm just picking on ya duse. Luckily I went for an eye exam and not the rectal exam you wished upon me. :bounce:

Rubberdown

08-31-2007, 01:53 AM

RD, Goop. Canadian Tire has it. Get black. Works great on just about anything, especially waders.

I think I have a big fat tube of that here i borrowed off the father-in-law for my waders.... so should I just smear it along the seam of the cover already bolted on or do you think I should loosen the cover and try to get it in there good and deep?

mailman

08-31-2007, 05:09 PM

I'd put some in the joint itself too. I used it on the inside of the cover when I made a drain in it ( the old ones like mine didn't have one) and its held up for over a year with no issues. Good luck.

Dirtbmw20

09-05-2007, 04:16 PM

I take it from the pics I saw in the other thread that you got the clutch cover sealed up OK. What did you do to finally get it sealed up ???

Rubberdown

09-05-2007, 04:34 PM

Hey Lee, yes it was a new gasket and it held just fine. I went out and played in the lake for a good 20 minutes or so putting on a pretty entertaining show and when I came out, I pulled the clutch drain plug and I might have had a shot glass worth of water in there. So I'd say she was sealed up pretty good. Thats when trouble came to town LOL. I gave my wife shit for not taking any pictures so when she got the camera, I was out pretty far and tried to go around the canoe that had someone taking pics for me and thats where the bottom of the lake went a little toooo deep and she filled up in all the snorks and died imediatly. Only 20 minutes or so and she was raring to go again. Man I love Polaris, if that was a honda, it would still be screwed....

"Bankrupt"

09-05-2007, 04:59 PM

good to know shes back running paul.

i let a friend take mine through a mud hole this past weekend and when he came out the other side i noticed the belt was slipping.

i got on it when we were leaving that hole and sure enough, it was slipping. we rode several more miles and then hit the river where we swim and was bikes off. thought nothing of the belt slipping. got ready to leave out and the bike wouldnt move. i nailed the gas and got a face full of muddy/hot water coming from the belt exhaust snorkle. got a friend to help me pull it over to the bank and we pulled the drain plug...

30 mins later when the water finaly drained out, i left the plug out and rode it to the truck. got home and found a hole in the bottom of the housing about as big as a dime...

guessing the heelclicker did a number on the housing.

Rubberdown

09-05-2007, 05:03 PM

OUCH, that sucks Eric, whats a new cover gonna cost you? Too bad no one makes an aftermarket one eh!

"Bankrupt"

09-05-2007, 05:19 PM

i have a spare one sitting here. its just a pain to take the snorkle pipe off, remove the floorboards and buy a new gasket for it. plus the drying time of the silicone once i reinstall it.

i just hope the 03 and the 07 are the same.

the good news is ive found some new 1 minute black sealant that seems to be working wonders. its made by permatex and its called "the right stuff" 1 minute gasket. it comes in those squeeze cheese cans. works great so far. ive used it on my airbox lid and the rear storage box.

PoPoRZR

09-05-2007, 05:21 PM

I see covers on ebay all the time...That is where i would check first man...

Rubberdown

09-05-2007, 05:36 PM

I dont know about your newer machine Eric but I never pull the floor board for a belt change or to remove the cover for any reason. You should be able to just pull the floor board bolts at the bottom of the floor board and then pull it out away from the quad enough that it has the room to be removed. Unless thats what you meant, but some people pull the entire floor board off the machine, thats just too many friggin screwes on the older ones LOL.

PoPoRZR

09-05-2007, 05:40 PM

It looks real easy on the RZR...The seats pull off then the cover just pulls off and it is behind the cover...

Clubin

09-05-2007, 05:50 PM

30 mins later when the water finaly drained out, i left the plug out and rode it to the truck. got home and found a hole in the bottom of the housing about as big as a dime...

guessing the heelclicker did a number on the housing.
Good old Heelclicher I have herd of that happening many times, that is one of the reasons I shyde away from it.

PoPoRZR

09-05-2007, 05:53 PM

There good but I dont know if i will put it on the RZR for that simple reason...

Clubin

09-05-2007, 05:54 PM

There good but I dont know if i will put it on the RZR for that simple reason...
Agreed.

04.5700EFI

09-05-2007, 06:07 PM

????? What Do Yall Guys Do When It Rains And Yall Have Them Stacks...they Look Great,but The Old Turn Down With The Pvc Seems Like More User Friendly..

Rubberdown

09-05-2007, 06:11 PM

????? What Do Yall Guys Do When It Rains And Yall Have Them Stacks...they Look Great,but The Old Turn Down With The Pvc Seems Like More User Friendly..

Good friggin question????

PoPoRZR

09-05-2007, 06:27 PM

Go to walmart get a plastic box and sit it ver them....That is what i would do...

"Bankrupt"

09-05-2007, 06:30 PM

"Bankrupt"

09-05-2007, 06:31 PM

and the heelclicker clutch works fine as long as you take a little caution when putting on the housing.

bolt the bottom first and get it tight then work your way to the top. i didnt do that and this is what happened.

PoPoRZR

09-05-2007, 06:37 PM

Well the stock is working fine for me right now so i might later on...

"Bankrupt"

09-05-2007, 06:53 PM

my stock clutch did great with 29.5's for a few months. but it was putting alot of wear and tear on the belt.

everything works great when its new. its down the road that you start noticing a big difference.

PoPoRZR

09-05-2007, 07:10 PM

Well i'm only goign to go ith 28 mst's but prolly later on down the road i will put the clutch kit on it...

04.5700EFI

09-05-2007, 10:21 PM

mine have turn downs in them.

tried the 90 only with the snorkle facing directly out. but every time i hit water/mud hard the splashing went straight down the snorkle. i put the other 90 on (it makes a 180) where it faces down and havent had a problem since.

U HAVE A 180 ON METAL STACKS?????

AND IF YOU PUT A BUCKET ON IT FROM WAL-MART ,HOW DO YOU RIDE LIKE THAT.?? AND WILL THE INTAKE GET THE RIGHT AIR???

THE REASON I ASK IS BECAUSE THIS WEEKEND I WENT RIDING AND IT WAS RAINING ALL WEEKEND.SO IF I HAD THE METAL STACK ON I WOULD HAVE BEEN SITING UNDER A TREE SOMEWHERE WAITING FOR IT TO STOP.:mmph:
BUT WITH THE PVC TURN DOWN I WOULD HAVE BEEN RIDING IT UP.:becky:

SO I WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE PEOPLE WITH THE STACKS DO WHEN IT RAINS. BECAUSE I GOT MY STACKS IN TODAY AND NOW AFTER THIS WEEKEND IVE BEEN THINKING...WHAT TO DO USE THE STACKS OR THE OLD SCHOOL PVC.!

PoPoRZR

09-05-2007, 10:25 PM

Well make sure the box dont fit flat on the stacks cut some holes in the front of the box....It is worth a try...I would try it before i got stuck out in the rain though....Might work it is just an idea though...

Dirtbmw20

09-05-2007, 11:31 PM

I don't know what kind of metal stacks Paul used, I thought they were truck bed rails like I used on the wife's, if they are, I use the little turn at the end of the stack for the tops of mine so they actually curve a little at the top and it would have to be raining real dam hard sideways to get in the pipes, we rode in the rain, and I mean a heavy ass rain, about two weeks ago and didn't pose a problem. Look at the pic and you can tell they are curved and rain water ain't gonne get in them, at least not enough to travel through the corrigated tubing and into the carb, I think you would stop riding if it was raining THAT hard.
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h260/Dirtbmw20/RearView.jpg

04.5700EFI

09-05-2007, 11:40 PM

"Bankrupt"

09-06-2007, 07:58 AM

well first off i didnt say i had metal stacks. those things would be a death trap for me the way i ride. besides, that thought had never crossed my mind and i had not seen them when i did mine....

also, i had the snorkles on my 03 700 turned straight out and never got water/rain in them.

my new bike like it is now.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v298/ereagan2180/P1020051.jpg

my 03
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v298/ereagan2180/P1010321.jpg

and 2, watch this video from mud nats this year. i saw more snorkles turned straight out (like the bed rails) do stuff that most people never dream of and none of them got water in their belts of air box.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=bM2l65rX4BM

Dirtbmw20

09-06-2007, 08:10 AM

Not Saying Your Not Tell The Truth...but Thats The Same Ones I Got And I Cant See Water Not Getting In Them When It Rains..that Curve Is Not Much And Sideways Rain Is Very Common..lol

And I Know Everyone Said Use Two Intake Stacks But I Used One " Because I Cant For The Life Of Me See How I Can Get Two To Fit" And The Bike Runs And Works Great!

Well that's good because as mentioned above, I AM speaking with some experience. Mine curve plenty enough to keep rain water out, I don't even have a problem washing the bike with a garden hose. We have ridden in the rain with them before and they do just fine. And again, as mentioned above, even if you do get rain water in them it's not gonna be enough water to travel ALL the way through the 3-4 feet of corrugated spa hose AND into your carb, that corrugated spa hose will trap water for weeks and keep it from traveling, that's one good thing about the corrugated hose versus the smooth hot tub hose some people use and yes, sideways rain IS common, I never said it wasn't, but if you're gonna keep riding in rain that hard then you're a fricking idiot in the first place, we pull over and wait hard rains like that out, a time for a cold one and to shoot the shit. Plus, there is a drain in the bottom of the air box for that shot glass of rain water that might make it's way in there.

And I'VE never said two stacks were required EXCEPT on the H.O. bikes, ie - mainly the 500. I know for a fact that the 700 carb AND efi version can be done with one stack as can the 800, I have personally seen it done with one stack and run just perfect, it is others that swear by the two stacks on the twin bikes. Everyone else can get two pipes to fit so it can be done.

"Bankrupt"

09-06-2007, 08:43 AM

And I'VE never said two stacks were required EXCEPT on the H.O. bikes, ie - mainly the 500. I know for a fact that the 700 carb AND efi version can be done with one stack as can the 800, I have personally seen it done with one stack and run just perfect, it is others that swear by the two stacks on the twin bikes. Everyone else can get two pipes to fit so it can be done.

well if you wont say it i will.

using 1 pipe on the twins (except for maybe a 2" pipe) run to the front rack is killing power. if you want to run a nut buster snorkle off the airbox (like paul) then 1 would be plenty. but ive done a single 1.5" hose from the airbox to the front rack on my 03 and it killed the bike. i went from a 156 jet to a 132 and it still ran rich. it lost a crap load of power just from the snokle and i had to jet it so far down to keep it from dying when you hit the gas. even with a 132 main jet it still ran so rich nobody would ride behind me.

Dirtbmw20

09-06-2007, 10:15 AM

it is others that swear by the two stacks on the twin bikes.

As was mentioned in my above statement, it is "others" that swear by the two stacks on the twin bikes, I just didn't mention any names.

You are the ONLY one I know of that has to use two stacks on the twin. I ride with alot of other guys, the majority of them 700's, that only have one snorkel tube. But if that's what works, then that's what works.

"Bankrupt"

09-06-2007, 11:36 AM

i just went by my previous **** ups. lol

i tried the single on my 03 and it didnt work. ofcourse i didnt know jack shit about what i was doing so i just stuck some crap together.

i went with the dual pipes on the new bike because you cant ever have enough

Riven

09-06-2007, 11:40 AM

So i can use only three 1.5" stacks to to my 600 & it will be OK?

How do you put two on the air box?

"Bankrupt"

09-06-2007, 11:50 AM

this is how i did it.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v298/ereagan2180/P1010697.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v298/ereagan2180/P1010715.jpg

Rubberdown

09-06-2007, 12:06 PM

So i can use only three 1.5" stacks to to my 600 & it will be OK?

How do you put two on the air box?

Ya buddy, snorkel that biotch :D

Riven

09-06-2007, 01:43 PM

this is how i did it.

So you ran a new 90 out through the bottom of the box. Im not sure i want to go that rout if i do it.

Is their enough room to come off the redular stock snorkel location with that 1.5" spa hose

04.5700EFI

09-06-2007, 02:02 PM

Well Can Somebody Show Me Where And How A 2" Hose Will Fit Anywhere Around That Bike To Make It To The Front Rack. And We Are All Men Here Dont Take What I Say The Wrong Way.i Just Want My Bike Done Right The First Time. So Everyone Thanks For All The Help !

Riven

09-06-2007, 03:02 PM

Well Can Somebody Show Me Where And How A 2" Hose Will Fit Anywhere Around That Bike To Make It To The Front Rack.
And We Are All Men Here Dont Take What I Say The Wrong Way.
i Just Want My Bike Done Right The First Time. So Everyone Thanks For All The Help !

Exactly!
I just want it done right the first time.

Is it not 1.5" hose?

Dirtbmw20

09-06-2007, 03:29 PM

Yes, the hose is 1 1/2", not 2". And I didn't take anything the wrong way, sorry if it came across like that, I was just trying to re-iterate that I had already been stuck in the rain with them before with zero problems.

PoPoRZR

09-06-2007, 04:28 PM

So polaris700 how much does it cost to join the bama boggers and what is the ups to joing them??

"Bankrupt"

09-07-2007, 06:56 AM

25.00 (gets you a t-shirt, membership package and STICKERS!!!)

we get a 25% discount from the dealership that sponsors our bog team. 25% off everything. parts, accessories.. everything. we get a good discount from several online sites like atvdirect, custom splice and a few others who sponsor us. we also have a shop here that does all our work and gives us 20% off anything we need.

plus we have a private section on our forums to trash talk each other and make fun of people.

what esle can you ask for? lol

we do big rides all the time and do a christmas parade and have members from as far away as texas come to be in the parade. we decorate our bike with lights and decoration and have a blast. my family (6 of us) threw out over 120 lbs of candy last year. most donated from local merchants and the rest we bought.

"Bankrupt"

09-07-2007, 07:17 AM

So you ran a new 90 out through the bottom of the box. Im not sure i want to go that rout if i do it.

Is their enough room to come off the redular stock snorkel location with that 1.5" spa hose

the only way to do that is run a "nut buster" pipe. where you cut your plastic right by the gas cap and run a pipe up between your legs. theres no where else you can run it if your going off the stock inlet.

the airboxes are cheap and can be found everywhere. replacing the airbox is a hell of a lot cheaper and easier than replacing the whole front plastic.