Need some info

[Mole]

I am thinking of getting a new ATV in the near future. Just want to hear everyones opinions on what you ride and what you like and dislike about your ATV. My buddy has a POPO 700 that he just bought and I rode it a little and that thing has some POWER!!!!!

If I bought one my top choices would be: Suzuki King Quad 750, POPO 700, and Brute Force 750 EFI.

The main things I would want on one is Low range, front locker and EFI. This purchase might not happen anytime soon but the info would be very helpful. Thanks.

[PoPoRZR]

Water and brute force engines dont mix real well....personally i would go with a grizzly 700 or popo800

[BOOMERANG]

2 of the baddest ATV's in our club would be Erics Polaris 700 and Wildchilds Brute 750. They run 1st and 2nd in the bogs, a distant 3rd would be a Grizzly 700.

[slapnuts8725]

I went with popo for how well they do in water stock........and i like the weight of them it helps with pulling dutys around the yard. POPO "pull other people out" :first:

[Donut Slayer]

PoPo, but I'm biased.

[Rubberdown]

I will never buy a KQ, and I will never buy a Rincon, and I likely wont buy a grizzly now that I tore into one to design a lift kit but I did like the BF and I have always liked the popos.

Heres why I choose what I did and didnt choose what I didnt.

I was on the first season of All Terrain Television last summer and my job on the show was to review different ATV's each week and report what I did and did NOT like about them. Right off the bat, Honda would not give us ANYTHING to test, not nothing, BUT I have rode with guys that have them, and have rode their machines a little bit. Although the rincons are a nice plush comfy ride, it just didnt have the power it should for a 650 IMPO and my buddy that has 2 of them just could not EVER compete with me and my little lifted 500 HO in the deep mud holes on the trails.

Next

I also got to test the KQ and again, it was a pretty nice ride, decent speed but again, it just didnt have the grunt for the mud, and since I like the mud, thats the main thing I look at. I have also rode with another guy from the show that has one and he too could not keep up with my little 500 HO in the mud holes, he even had a higher 3" lifvt kit and mud bitch tires and he still got hung up more than me with my 1.5" kit. So, thats not for me.

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I always liked the grizzly, I tested the 700 with the power steering and WOW, what a nice machine to ride, very easy to manuver and lots of power to boot. HOWEVER, I recently found out that in order to lift one of these, its is required that you instal gorillas or you will be going through axles like hot cakes in a waffel house. When I tore into a 660 for a lift kit design, it was clear that they have very small CV joints and very limited a-arm travel for even allowing a lift kit so that right there kinda turned me off of them.

I did test the BF 750 and it was one of the machines I liked the most as far as appearance, and it had lots of power. It did require some levers to get it into a true 4x4 lock, but other than that, with my very limited testing, it was an okay machine.

now we talk popo talk.

People can hate on polaris all they want, thats there God given right. I persoanlly like that its heavy for 1 main reason, it means heavier duty cunstruction, bigger stronger heavier parts which means less broken parts. They also as far as I know come with the highest factory snorkels, and in my opinion, a great suspension system except for the week front spring. They also have a true flip of the switch on demand 4x4 system that is unsurpassed. However, if they dont improve that front hillard clutch, they will start to loose customers since it is either a week spot, or a poor design so it needs to be improved.

That my comentary on the machines you mentioned. I have also tested the 650 cat H1 (I think thats what it was called), the 700 cat, the 500 can am twin, the 500 X2 sportsman, the 800 sportsman (my favorite ATV tested) and also the Rhino and a small slew of the race ATV's.

If anyone wants my feedback on those, let me know and I'll type that all out as well.:typing:

[Mole]

Nice write up Paul. Thanks for the info.

Does anyone know how well the Brute Force axles hold up with mud tires and a lift kit???

[B Man]

personally, if i were to go buy a new ATV right now, i think it would be a poo 800. the brute hates water, has a crappy KEBC actuatar, amoung other flaws, plus this year will be the first year for EFI, wouldn't it suck if they all had problems?

i love the smooth ride and stock snorkles on the poo. AC i don't care for, after seeing suzi's king quad in action i disliked them, and can am's just aren't for me, although they are fast i have my doubts about them in the mud.

[Mole]

Yeah. I really dislike the Can Ams except for the Rotax engine. They have very little CV protection. I don't like their rear suspension setup either.

[Clubin]

Yeah. I really dislike the Can Ams except for the Rotax engine. They have very little CV protection. I don't like their rear suspension setup either.
I was in your boat, after I sold my 03 grizz I bought a 02 700 polaris, it was 10 times the quad of my grizz. When I was ready to upgrade again, I checked everything out, and bought a Polaris they are made to last. I wanted a EFI and Polaris was the one for me once again, the dealer is another thing you should look at, a crappy dealer can make your purchase a living hell. A good dealer who sells a crappy product and treats his customers like gold will have happy customers even though his product has issues.

[choPppps]

I have an '06 800 popo - thing is awesome! Currently has 110 hrs and 2600km's on it. No issues. I drive the living crap out of it and it still goes. Stock the bike would get 120km to a tank of fuel, can wheelie over backwards if you want. Now has heavy springs and a rear RD lift - only 250km with the lift so far and 27" Carlisle ACT X/lr's. EFI is great for cold weather riding. Had a 4.5 500 popo and it was great as well.

As for the weight, to be honest I really don't notice it. I can throw the bike around easily and I only weight 190! I think the weight actually gives you the ride and traction on the trails. The only thing is I need to run in AWD on dry loose trails at high speeds, otherwise the bike will slide of the trail. LOL. Personlly I like AWD for ripping as the control is amazing! If you are an experienced rider you can't go wrong with the 800.

My budy has an X2 and it is quite the bike as well. You can do 80km/hr with 2 guys on it in the trails. Was challenging to keep up even with 2 people on it.

Well that's it!!

BUY A POPO!!

P - pulling
O - other
P - people
O - out

[choPppps]

as a note, I have driven an '06 800 Can-Am Max xt and an '07 800 Renegade. These both have lots of power. The Max did not have the ride of the popo. Also, the guys wife who had the Max drove my 800 popo and commented on how easy it was to drive on the trails. She actually thought it was easier to steer!! I thought the Max felt more like a sport bike.

The Renegade is fast and powerful. If you want something that is almost pure sport it can give you that fealing. You are able to drive it much to fast on the trails though! My budy has hit 132km/hr on it!! The guy with the Renegade also had a 700 popo. He does think that the popo was built a lot better. That is his opinion.

Both of these bikes have issues with the belts slipping when in deep water. I guess the cvt cover leaks! Can-Am has supposedly fixed this for '08. You also need to purchase a skid plate for these as they do not have much protection below.

[Madmudder]

Don't forget the thundercat if you are considering big heavy and powerful machines. Where did you see a 750 King quad? is it new?
http://www.arctic-cat.com/atv/vehicle.asp?id=870

[Mole]

Yeah the 2008 Kings are 750's. Not sure if they are twin cylinders or not but I am pretty sure they are. Haven't heard much about them except they are 750's.

[PoPoRZR]

Well you want the best lift????He only makes it for 2 machines and you drive one and the other is the popo....Come on now that is like ++++++++.....
That would make my decision....

[Mole]

Well like I stated at the top. The POPO 700 would be a top three choice for me. Just trying to get some opinions on different machines. A good lift kit is a must for me though.

[PoPoRZR]

I would spend the extra cash and get the 800 though....

[Rubberdown]

I would spend the extra cash and get the 800 though....


See, heres where i wouldnt get the 800. It seems to me that the more powerfull these machines are, the more likely you are to break parts, so although I would love to have an 800, I think the 700 may even be to much for the abuse I have been known to dish out and I would just break more stuff.

Just something else to consider if you have a heavy thumb...

[B Man]

See, heres where i wouldnt get the 800. It seems to me that the more powerfull these machines are, the more likely you are to break parts, so although I would love to have an 800, I think the 700 may even be to much for the abuse I have been known to dish out and I would just break more stuff.

Just something else to consider if you have a heavy thumb...

while thats a good point of veiw, no way would i go for less power. i look for power when buying a quad. i think the 700 would break just as many axles, u joints, etc as the 800, so go big or go home.

[slapnuts8725]

My 500 works for me BUT I got it knowing i would be more likely to get hurt on the 800. Now if it wasent for the awsome low gear polaris gives us it would be a diffrent story. :hat:

[DAN-O-MITE]

wow.....now that is quite an assessment of machines Rubberdown....

Me I enjoy Yamaha's......been dealing with them since day 1

2000 Bear Tracker.....2wd great value for the buck...
2001 Kodiak....great handling machine...easy to ride....easy to manoveur through the bush...
2005 Kodiak again great handling machine....independent suspension was the only difference.....nice machine again...great for plowing...sidewalks....driveways.....and getting in tightspots with snowblade...

2002 Grizzly(over 21000km on it).....very nice machine.....handles well...lots of pickup for me........pulled my neighbour's car(buick LeSabre Custom)...stuck in a farmer's field this spring(bottomed out in mud)....and pulled it out np....about 800feet worth.... doesn't deal well with deep water though(6 feet plus)

I am impressed with the new Can-am's. Nice looking machine.....seriously looking at one of these next time.....I was very impressed with the 400 at a spring poker run(you know who you are kiddo)...by performance and manoveurability...but then again maybe it was the rider

I've ridding a few poopoo's and just don't like th feel of them....not to say there're not a great machine.....but for the most part my type of riding......I find you sit too high on them....where the yamaha's you feel more part of them....when riding...

Your gonna hear good an bad in all the machines....its each ones preference I guess.......

Serious water crossings......serious mudbogging......I tend to agree with Rubberdown.....

Casual riding.....comfort....dependability......easy to maintain.....Yamaha.....doing almost 1000 miles in 8 days doesn't prove it.....then I don't know what does....

[bmdjmd]

im not going to give a review of the grizz i have and the POLARIS i used to own.

[98frontier]

stock brute force axles are toothpicks under a heavy thumb my buddies bike has went through 6 of them in 6 months. his bike is stock other than 27" tires. buy what you want, but i like both yamaha and popo.