I got a sick POPO!

[Riven]

So far the damage is...:crutch:

Water pump impeller & cover
Belt
4 gears that run the water pump, balancer & what ever.
& it looks like I might need crank bearings as well.

I hope that is it because im up to about $600 in parts alone
.:eek::pout::doh::mmph:


Any one got $1000 they dont need???::peace:

[OnlyPolaris]

how did you manage to do that?

[Riven]

Im sure this is what caused all my problems.
http://inlinethumb63.webshots.com/16638/2293351050084649699S600x600Q85.jpg
My little popo pulling Rubberdowns broken axle heavy ass popo out of a nasty hole.
Yep i blame it all on him. :boink:LOL Just kidding Paul.:lol:

Actually I have no idea about the gears or bearings but the pump impeller is a common popo thing & i did smoke my belt a bit pulling him out but it was not the first time. It was the 3rd or 4th time.

[Jonathan]

Sorry to hear that. Good thing the PoPo's have there own online part catalogs lol. J/k.

[Bigdog800EFI]

Send me a list of parts and I will see if I can save you a few bucks.

[Riven]

Sorry to hear that. Good thing the PoPo's have there own online part catalogs lol. J/k.

HaHaHa:biggrin1:

Actually here is a good link for discount OEM parts for Honda & Poalris.
The 4 gear set i need is almost $80 cheeper than from the dealer & with the Canadian $ worth as much as the US $ it an even better deal.

http://www.discounthondaparts.com/fiche_select.asp

[Riven]

Send me a list of parts and I will see if I can save you a few bucks.

I will tomorow. I hope to know for sure by then if it is the crank bearings & if i can live without new gears for a month or 10.
Thanks Bigdog800EFI:angel:

[bmdjmd]

Sure go and RUIN your bike 3 weeks before the Kearney run that i am going to be attending you doink. HEHEHE, J/K hope ya get it all fixed up i know my worst fear is hurting the motor in any way. I know they are very expensive to fix at times.

[Rubberdown]

I was going to offer up the same thing as Bigdog800efi, you let me know the part #'s and I'll see what they would cost at the dealer in NY that I get most of my parts from. I know that some things are a lot cheaper and some are about the same, so if you get me all the #,s, I'll e-mail them for a price list. Then I could either have my buddy bring them up to Kearney for you or I could ship them to you from the Falls.

["Bankrupt"]

is the 600 a twin or a single?

i have alot of leftovers from my 700 if you think any of it will work.

take some pictures of what you need and what it is and ill see what i got.

[Turk]

is the 600 a twin or a single?


I aiways forget about the 600.I always thought it was a twin but now i'm not sure.Do the twins start with the 600 or the 700??

[PolBug]

The 600 is a twin.

[Jonathan]

HaHaHa:biggrin1:

Actually here is a good link for discount OEM parts for Honda & Poalris.
The 4 gear set i need is almost $80 cheeper than from the dealer & with the Canadian $ worth as much as the US $ it an even better deal.

http://www.discounthondaparts.com/fiche_select.asp

Thanks for the link. Wow if I have need to repair or find replacement parts for my Rincon this will help me out a lot. Great find buddy. Saved to favorites lol.

[Riven]

Thanks for all the offers of help everyone!:hail:
The last time i had so many people offer this much support was when my car burned up. It just goes to show the quality ppl we have on this site.:rockon:

I did not get to talk to the dealer to day to find out if there are any more busted parts i will need. God i hope their are not any more.

Here is the # for the gear set i need
2202145
Please check out the prices for me Rubberdown & Bigdog800EFI & thanks again.

Polaris700 You still got lots of goodies from the 700 you were parting out? I think everything i need is already gone from that bike, but their are a few bits i would like to have. Let me get the old girl rolling again then we can talk about the extras.



bmdjmd I plan to do everything in my power to be able to ride with you guys. Hell im your guide unless you can get MuskokaMudder to lead the way again.
Let me know ASAP when you have a firm date in mind.

I have the $$$ to fix my bike *kinda* but will i survive the wrath of the wife is another question.

[bmdjmd]

Riven im coming up for the ATV clubs first run on the 13th of oct, i was on that when i saw it posted on the mudhole. i have passed this along to the others to see what happens, if they dont want to ride in that then i might just plan another ride with them for the sunday maybe...???

As for fixing the Po-po isnt that your manly right due to it being your only vise??? it is in my house, quit smoking, dont drink well not hard, and havent touched any other "smoke" in awhile now and dont have a girlfriend, man would that be expensive. SOOOOO the grizz is my vise...hehehe at least thats the excuse i use...

[Rubberdown]

e-mail sent for a parts price request buddy, i'll let you know as soon as I know.

[Bigdog800EFI]

210.00 plus 27.00 for shipping. if you live close to RD I could send it to him for 12.00

[duse]

210.00 plus 27.00 for shipping. if you live close to RD I could send it to him for 12.00

BigDog, I understand you have or had,a set of Black Plastics?
Full set?
Shape?
Do you want to get rid of them?

[Riven]

210.00 plus 27.00 for shipping. if you live close to RD I could send it to him for 12.00


Damb thats a good price! The best i could find was $250 before shipping.
Do you know how long it would take to get them? I doubt they are a stock item at the dealership.

[Bigdog800EFI]

BigDog, I understand you have or had,a set of Black Plastics?
Full set?
Shape?
Do you want to get rid of them?

It is a rear set off of an insurance claim. they are in good shape no cracks, some normal scratches.

[Bigdog800EFI]

Damb thats a good price! The best i could find was $250 before shipping.
Do you know how long it would take to get them? I doubt they are a stock item at the dealership.

Just remember It would be us dollars. It will take about a 5-7 days for me to get it and the how ever long to get to you.

[bmdjmd]

the US dollars wouldnt be much different right now as the dollars ar so close in value right now.

[Riven]

As of last check you would owe me $.44 as our dollar was worth more than the Us was for the first time in 30 years. LOL

If i order them i will send it in US funds. Will you take a money order?

[Bigdog800EFI]

sure

[Riven]

OK got some good news finally.
Only one gear that runs the water pump is worn & the dealer suggests to leave it for now & change it when it totaly goes as it will not hurt anything to run it as is.

I hope this is sound advice. I dont really have the $$ for new gears but i will spend it if i have to. He must be right.

Bigdog800EFI If you still have them when it really blows I will drop you a line. Thanks again.

[Bigdog800EFI]

Still Have? I have or can get any part you need.

[Rubberdown]

So whats the total damage then Jay? Are you riding it as it was or is anything else being fixed????

[duse]

OK got some good news finally.
Only one gear that runs the water pump is worn & the dealer suggests to leave it for now & change it when it totaly goes as it will not hurt anything to run it as is.

I hope this is sound advice. I dont really have the $$ for new gears but i will spend it if i have to. He must be right.

Bigdog800EFI If you still have them when it really blows I will drop you a line. Thanks again.

I dont know ,maybe it's me ...
But thats just sounds like HORRIBLE advice.
You know it's gonna go at the worst possible time,the worst possible place .(If it was me it would)
Good luck

[Rubberdown]

ya, that part # you posted is like $262.49 U.S. from the dealer in NY that I use.

["Bankrupt"]

theres no way i would put damaged parts back into the bike and "just wait" till they went out.


even if i didnt have the money right then i would just wait. ive done short cuts like that before and they ALWAYS came back to bit me in the ass. bought a motor for a dodge truck i had one time. put some new gaskets on the valve covers and oil pan and was going to put a oil pump on it but said "nahh. it was working when i pulled the engine" so i didnt. 4 months later the oil pump went out and i spun a rod bearing and had to pull the engine and rebuild it.

[Riven]

WELL when you all put it like that it does feel kinda wrong to put them back in. Im just tring to get her back on the trail for one last ride with bmdjmd & Hillz in the next couple of weeks. If it was not for this ride i would be happy to leave it in the shop all winter.

[Rubberdown]

This wasnt Robby telling you this was it? If it was, he does know what the hell he's talkin about, but at the same time, I'd hate for it to go for a shit mid ride, you know.

[Riven]

Yes it was Rob, just this afternoon!

He said the only gear with any backlash is the one that runs the pump & it would be OK to run. He has no fears on running it.
He knows his stuff & i really want to trust him & not just for the $$$ savings.
He has never steered me wrong with selling me parts i dont need ever before.
I am really tempted to just run it even if it is only for this one ride. But one ride becomes all winter untill i forget about it & then BOOM.

[PoPoRZR]

They always say it is better to be safe then sorry....Where it only costs 300 right now might cost you 2000 down the road...I know my luck and that thing would go out before i got it off the trailer...

[Riven]

They always say it is better to be safe then sorry....Where it only costs 300 right now might cost you 2000 down the road...I know my luck and that thing would go out before i got it off the trailer...

I know what you mean. I wish it was only $300. without the gears & labour its already at $350. So it will be about $1000 or so for everything.
I hate these kind of decisions. Spend the $$$ & piss my wife off to no end but get to ride with my friends one last time for the year & hope it holds or let them down & save up some $$$ & fix it next spring.

[PoPoRZR]

It is hard decsions......I would prolly just ride it one last time if i dint have the money....

["Bankrupt"]

if you trust the guy and his opinion i would do what he says.

its hard for us to sit here and tell you what you need to do when were not even there to see how bad it is. were just being armchair quarterbacks.

[Riven]

Well my bike is finally not a pile of parts on the shop floor. Well most of its not on the floor.
Dealer says i should have it back by the weekend.
Now can i pay the bill...

[Riven]

One week later & its still a pile of parts on the shop floor.:ohwell:

Dealer found a missing tooth on the timing gear. So that explains the crunching sound & the loss of top end speed. Lets just hope the valves etc. are not screwed too.:pout:

[Riven]

TWO more weeks have gone by & now my bike is a pile of parts sitting out in the rain out side the dealers shop:yell:

HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO GET A TIMING GEAR FROM POLARIS? :noidea:
DO THEY ONLY MAKE THEM WHEN THE HAVE A NEED FOR ONE?


6 WEEKS & COUNTING. NOT HAPPY!!!::mmph::frusty:
URGE TO RIDE OVERPOWERING!
Might resort to killing things to help curb the itch :laser:

The gas will all be turned to varnish by the time i get it back...;)

It would have only been a week, two at tops if the parts were available.

[OnlyPolaris]

you'll get your bike back and it will have like 50 more hours and 100 more km.

[choPppps]

You know what really sucks, is everything goes through Polaris Canada in Winnipeg. Dealers can't even order directly from the US. Polaris Canada is ripping us off and we should stand up and fight it!!!

[Rubberdown]

You know what really sucks, is everything goes through Polaris Canada in Winnipeg. Dealers can't even order directly from the US. Polaris Canada is ripping us off and we should stand up and fight it!!!

You are exactly right, I asked for a price on 700 front springs for my machine at the same Canadian dealer Riven uses and also at a U.S. dealer and the price I payed the U.S. dealer was still lower than the Canadian DEALER cost.:frusty:

[Riven]

I have been told its all about the market size. The US has a bigger market so they get stuff cheeper by default because they sell more.
I dont care how they explain it! It still sucks....

[choPppps]

Market size does not make sense when talking Polaris. You can get '08 800's for around $7000 US. Even if you include shipping to Canada your're taking around $8500.......... mine was just over $12,000 OTD in '07!!!!! You can bet Polaris Canada is not paying 9 grand to bring the bike in!!!!

[Turk]

I dont think thats fair to canadian customers thats just wrong.It's not like canada is thousands of miles away and across a major ocean it's in north america for christ sake and connected to the usa by land.

[cd]

well don't feel down, I just wrote a bill last night for a Sportsman 500 motor I redid, it was $1600, can you say catastrophic, and heck I didn't even pull the motor.

[Riven]

MY PARTS ARE FINALLY IN!:whoo::whoo::whoo: & i should have my bike back this weekend:suspicious:

[800Stealth]

I feel your pain man, I just got mine back after 5 weeks of excuses and empty promises. I hope your wheelin soon.

[bmdjmd]

MY PARTS ARE FINALLY IN!:whoo::whoo::whoo: & i should have my bike back this weekend:suspicious:



Welll thats good to hear, hope we can ride realll soon.

[Riven]

Welll thats good to hear, hope we can ride realll soon.


Me to Brian me to.:pray:

[Riven]

Well my bike is finally mostly back in one peace but....
Now the F'n thing bogs out at about 3/4 throttle. The dealer is still looking at it but he does not really have an idea what it could be at this time.

Any one have an idea what it could be?

To re-cap. The big damage was a broken tooth on the timing gear.

[OnlyPolaris]

could be dirty carb. plugged fuel filter. wrong jetting.

[Riven]

I think wrong jetting is out because it was good when i took it in. As long as he has the Dial-A-Jet hooked up it should be good.
I think it might be worth a call just to check & see that he did have it all put back properly.
The bike would be about 2 jets lean without the DAJ. Would that cause the loss of top end?

[Riven]

The dealer now wants to repalce the whole ignition system for $700 + 2.5hrs lobour. It includes CDI ststor wires etc.

Could this realy be my problem? What else should i be looking at?
I already have about $1000 in to it now & cant afford another $700 just to see if it will work.

Thanks

[popomonster]

hum, it might be the ign? i say thay should pay for it if it is not. throwing parts at it wont fix it.

how long did it sit? might be water in fuel, bad plug wire, leaking boot on carb, trash etc...

[Riven]

It has been over 4 months. I plant to look it over my self & then send it to another shop because i dont know crap about bikes LOL

[Bigdog800EFI]

If it sat for that long I would bet on a dirty carb

[GOTTOYS]

I'd be betting on a dirty carb also. This oxygenated fuel we gotta run here goes sour real fast. I hope you don't have that crap there too. I've had good luck with a can of Seafoam if you can find it. Good Luck and keep us posted.....GOTT

[Riven]

I would hope my dealer is good enough to find a dirty carb. He is usually a good guy to deal with & knows his stuff.

I use Seafoam in almost everything i own. Its only been available for about a year in my area.

Looks like its time to buy a book on carbs as i dont know jack about working on them.LOL

[Riven]

I GOT HER BACK TODAY!!!!

Its not fixed 100% but its rideale.:clap2:

It makes a whine sound when you start it now? Sounds like the starter is sticking on a few seconds too long. Have not had her out for a ride yet to see what is happening to the top end speed.

He actually cut me a real good deal! only $300 for new belt,water pump & cover & all the work he did do to it.

BUT he lost one of my foot wells but gave me one that dont quite fit to use untill mine showes up in the spring. LOL:tsk::doh:

[Rebel64]

Good deal! Better than goin without, right?

[Riven]

Yep im glad to have her home. It starts & runs OK but makes some wierd noises. I will see how it does with the plow this weekend. I think i found a shop to take it too but i need to save up some more $$$$ after X-mass. $2000 for a ring for my wife kinda broke the bank this year.

[Rebel64]

Wow nice present for her! :)

[Riven]

She told me to buy it...:moony::hail:

I found another one i like better but its $4895 & thats 1/2 price. That is just WAY out of my price range this year. Or any year.:spit:

[Rebel64]

Ah, so the 'yes dear' came out, eh? LOL!
I'm glad my gf isn't into bling too much...but I'd happily buy her a quad and bling THAT out for her. We'll see what happens in 08, but AFTER I'm finished with mine. Oh wait, we're never finished are we? ;)

[bmdjmd]

Congrats riven on getting the po-po back

[Riven]

Yep she was home for less than 48 hours & i took her to another shop. These guys looked her over & scratched their heads. They seam to know their shit but they are not sure about my bike. Its almost like it has a few sweet spots in the rpm's where it will knock. rev her a bit higher & it goes away, a little more & it back.:frusty:

I am to call them next week. They figure they will have it fixed or at least a good idea what parts i need to order.

I thinking 6" Gorilla lift & enough parts to turn my 600 into a 700 would be a good start & i will worry about the noises later. LOL :laugh:

[Rubberdown]

LOL, glad you got it back, and glad Robbie treated you fair.

[Riven]

All in all he did cut me a real good deal. $300 for the work he did including a new belt & water pump aint bad really.
I'm sure he will get his moneys worth out of me in the years to come. LOL

He did misplace my foot well. He says i can stop by in the spring & pick it out of the snow bank when things start to melt. It was kinda busted so i think ill just order a new one once the bike is fixed

[Rubberdown]

LOL, ya hes always going in 20 different directions in that place, but all in all, a great guy.

[Riven]

Well we finally found the problem! Its a blown crank:faint:
So now im on the hunt for a new crank kit with all gaskets etc.

Is there an after market crank for my bike?

[Parttime]

no aftermarket crank available.

[Riven]

Yep I found out.:mad::jaw::rant:

[Riven]

Well i have a full list of parts to order. Damb they are expensive. But thanks to Bigdog800EFI i can save a few bucks on my parts. Actually it like $400+ in savings.

My only other option is to look for a motor & do a swap.
SO if anyone has on knows of a GOOD 600 or 700 carbed motor please let me know.
I have checked ebay & found nothing.

[Riven]

5 months & $2500 & i finally have my bike home! :rockon:

The only major thing to do before summer is change all the wheel bearings, change all the fluids & install my longer sway bar links. Their will be another 30 things that will pop up before long but those are the main ones.


I CANT WAIT TO GO RIDING!!! & break something else:doh:

[harmonsbrute]

good to hear u got it home... y so long tho..

[Turk]

Wow what a long and winding road it's been for you and the popo,glad you got it back home.

[OnlyPolaris]

thats great. don't tell me about a list of things to do because i got a hole page i got to do in the next 2 months.

[Riven]

The list is OK its all the other things that get added out of the blue that take up all your time.

[bmdjmd]

Great News there Riven, i guess i know we are riding at the Mudhole together??? i cant wait for that weekend. prolly stop by your place on my way north.

[Riven]

Well i get my bike back from the shop once again tomorrow.

Cost me another $600 to get them to fix all the crap the last place broke or hooked up wrong. All vent lines were FUBAR or missing, jetting was WAY off, car boot between carb & motor was wrecked, front end of the bike was out of alignment by 1" or more making front rack not fit. Might be more wrong but i wont know until i pick it up in the morning.

Total price to date is $3100. Im sure it higher but thats all i can remember spending.

[Riven]

Well my bike is home finally. It runs great! Better than it ever did. Guy at the shop told me to stop moding it as it was a real pain in the A$$ to jet properly.

Still need to give her a once over for missing bolts etc. Only found 1 so far & the bracket that holds the carb is missing from the shop that did the rebuild.