Heel clicker?? [Archive] - Rubber Down Customs

slapnuts8725

10-08-2007, 09:35 PM

Hey

I got the HC installed on my 06 500 EFI with 27" swamp fox's. Right now i have the white primary spring in it and stock secondary. No weights in the shoes. and its only geting to 5150-5200rpm's at 40-45mph. It was at 5000rpm with the 2.5g in the heel. Will that secondary spring make that extra rpm up?:frusty:

Thanks
Brent

PoPoRZR

10-08-2007, 10:27 PM

Go over to atvquadsquad and ask cajun or cob about it i have been reading over there and there nice guys and knows alot about that...

slapnuts8725

10-08-2007, 10:33 PM

Yea i figured i would post something over here to. I ordered EPI marron and pink primary springs for it. hopfully that does the trick!!

Thanks
Brent

Turk

10-09-2007, 06:51 AM

Go over to atvquadsquad and ask cajun or cob about it i have been reading over there and there nice guys and knows alot about that...

I read that forum everyday,lots of great information over there.

Dirtbmw20

10-09-2007, 09:09 AM

That is strange. First off, NO, the secondary spring will not make the rpm's go up, at least not the secondary spring that came with the kit. I run the HC in both my 500's, although I don't run the white primary spring anymore, I just run the stock blue/green Polaris spring but I'm running 28" Outlaws on both our bikes and I can run over 50mph on either bike. Granted I have the 800 clutch in my bike with some tweaking done to it so MY bike turns about 6100-6300 rpm's.

slapnuts8725

10-11-2007, 02:12 PM

Its now at 5550 rpm's 40-45mph with the maroon primary.

Brent

slapnuts8725

10-13-2007, 05:29 PM

Guess im gues going to have to deal with low rpm's to get the engagment i need. Have the oragne spring in and it brings the rpm's up were i need them but its engaging at 2500 WAY to high for what i do.:noidea:

PoPoRZR

10-14-2007, 01:40 AM

What kinda weights you running???

slapnuts8725

10-14-2007, 09:53 AM

None. I was going to mess withsome weight but was told it wont help that much so I dont know.

Thanks
Brent

Bigdog800EFI

10-16-2007, 08:16 PM

Any progress on the clutch kit.

slapnuts8725

10-16-2007, 08:46 PM

Not yet I havent messed with it since i tryed doing a climb with it(scarest climb of my life) Im going to mess with it on thursday and see what i get. (dident help I dident have any breaks:rofl:) Im hoping i can figure it out with out having to buy smaller tires as these things just wear to good so it would be awile.

Thanks Brent

Bigdog800EFI

10-16-2007, 09:16 PM

Your other parts should be on there way soon. Just to make sure, what was the belt number that I sent you.

slapnuts8725

10-17-2007, 02:38 PM

belt #3211095

brent

Bigdog800EFI

10-17-2007, 05:39 PM

that the right one. I calls for a 095 or a 091

SCRAMMYTODD

11-14-2007, 10:44 PM

I'm running 2.5 in the heel, white primary, and silver secondary and I top out at 6100 at about 55-58 on gps. It seems to work for me.

slapnuts8725

12-17-2007, 10:22 PM

Were is that engaging at?

Thanks

SCRAMMYTODD

12-18-2007, 06:06 PM

Just under 2000 rpms. I tried the orange spring, but it was a little too aggressive for me. It was up around 2500 rpms.

Rebel64

12-18-2007, 06:18 PM

How's this for a mix-match, I have the EPI/HL clutch kit in mine, but using the orange spring in the primary. I like it! Took some getting used to at first because of the delay making me think the belt was slipping, but when it goes, it goes! :)

Turk

03-03-2008, 03:24 AM

I'm just about ready to buy the HC kit for my 500.Time to look up BigDog800EFI and see if he has any.

torkmonster

03-03-2008, 03:27 AM

Best investment money can buy.

Turk

03-04-2008, 11:09 PM

torkmonster

03-04-2008, 11:22 PM

thats a great place to learn it at... I get most of it, but some just goes right over my head!!!

Turk

03-05-2008, 12:09 AM

I have to read all that stuff real slow and sometimes 4 & 5 times.I dont mind though I'm learning alot ahead of time.

torkmonster

03-05-2008, 10:13 AM

Yeah the more that you read it the more you understand it.. Atleast me anyway... I did see a I wanna say "DIAGRAM" some damn where but cant seem to find it anywhere... It wasn't necisarily a HC but it was just the workings of a CVT period and I found it very useful in understanding HOW IT WORKS..
I'll keep lookin for it..
Ther is also one somewhere on quadsquad that shows the HILLIARD gearcase that was a very good read IMO.

Camo500EFI

03-05-2008, 12:00 PM

I checked with BigDog800EFI today and he has one for my machine and I cant wait to get it. I need to start reading the "HC clutch kit section" over at the atvquadsquad forum and start learning about setups and adjustments on the HC kit.

Turk go with the recommended weights and the secondary spring that they send. But get the EPI maroon spring. I have gone with both the white and the maroon and I'm likeing the maroon now. Theres a few more RPM's out of the EPI spring. The white one is a good one to start with if your impatient like me, it's fine.

Rebel64

03-05-2008, 12:03 PM

Ed do you think I'll be ok with running the stock secondary spring, white primary spring, and recommened weights?

Camo500EFI

03-05-2008, 12:09 PM

The secondary spring that they send is almost the same as a stocker. I know Lee uses the stock spring and his is fine. I did it mostly because if they sent it why not use it. I'm not sure about the 800's though. There are some plastic buttons inside the secondary that are essentially some sort of stoppers or something and my fear is and was with mine that with more torque coming from the primary as the belt grips harder and faster that it may wear stock parts out quicker so I put the HC secondary spring in. As for spring I'll bet you will be fine with the white spring. The weights are the only thing that after a few rides you may want to see if you need more. Especially since your not interested in top speed.

Turk

03-05-2008, 12:18 PM

Turk go with the recommended weights and the secondary spring that they send. But get the EPI maroon spring. I have gone with both the white and the maroon and I'm likeing the maroon now. Theres a few more RPM's out of the EPI spring. The white one is a good one to start with if your impatient like me, it's fine.

Thanks,it seems the more I read about the more I hear it's best to go with the epi maroon spring so i'll go ahead and order one ahead.Where do i find one?

Camo500EFI

03-05-2008, 12:19 PM

I believe mark has one.... Se if he'll hook you up.

Rebel64

03-05-2008, 12:19 PM

Turk

03-05-2008, 12:20 PM

Thanks good idea.I'll check with him.

Camo500EFI

03-05-2008, 12:28 PM

K thanks for the answer.
Maybe I should ask someone with an 800 also? Might be hard to compare your and Lees 500 to mine even though he's running 29fives.
Either way for now I'll try it out first. (if the friggin weather ever cooperates).

Amen to that I'm getting tired of the snow finally. As for your secondary just do what I did and drop it off at the dealer and have them do it. They didn't even charge me. My concern fro you is you have almost double the power that I or Lee do so if it were me I would definetly put the seconday HC spring in. It's called an ounce of prevention.

Rebel64

03-05-2008, 12:45 PM

Well damn, we already got the stock spring installed in the secondary yesterday. Oh well, it didn't take a lot of budging, so I might just take it out and get the silver HC in, especially since I don't have the clutch case cover back on yet either.

torkmonster

03-05-2008, 12:47 PM

I can ask my dad what setup he has in his 800... I do know he doesn't have the EPI MAROON less he changed it..

torkmonster

03-05-2008, 12:49 PM

They were supposed to be sending some NEW weights to him not sure if he got those yet or not either... I think with the NEW 800's they already have most of what the HC weights will give you anyways or something like that I was reading over on QS

Turk

03-07-2008, 12:11 PM

Well all I have to do is sit tight until the HC arrives.In the mean time i've been reading everything I can on all the diffrent set-up combo's,etc,etc over at atv quadsquad in the HeelClicker forum,lots of good information there.I'm looking foward to my next project/install and can hardly wait to get started.

Camo500EFI

03-07-2008, 12:21 PM

Your gonna love it Turk. Big difference.

torkmonster

03-07-2008, 04:04 PM

Your gonna love it Turk. Big difference.

:amen:What he said.
And you think you can pop them wheelies now!?!?!? Be alot easier with the HEELCLICKER..

Turk

03-07-2008, 05:10 PM

And you think you can pop them wheelies now!?!?!? Be alot easier with the HEELCLICKER..

I'm pulling wheelies fine as it is now.

http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL144/1427015/16921545/303408596.jpg

http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL144/1427015/16921545/292009467.jpg

But with a HC dialed in I hope to take it up a level.I put this Little HO on it's assend and face the sky all stock,guess I need wheelie bars because now I want to go for distance.

Rebel64

03-07-2008, 05:14 PM

I can't wait to try mine out.
I did take out the stock secondary and put in the silver HC spring the other evening.
Man, last nite I even had a dream about goin deep with the nose in the air at Ruffcorns...I can't wait until the 22nd!!
Oops sorry, little off topic there.

Turk

03-07-2008, 05:18 PM

Let me ask this now...am I wasting my time with an epi maroon spring or is it good to have it in the "extra springs' box??

torkmonster

03-07-2008, 06:31 PM

Yep it looks like you are turk.. Just that it will pop up ALOT easier and with a little more conrol in my opinion with the kit on...
That has been my experience anyway... The lift DID seem to help alot also.. Guess mabye cause the rear springs were in a more pressed state and not giving as much???

Camo500EFI

03-07-2008, 06:46 PM

Let me ask this now...am I wasting my time with an epi maroon spring or is it good to have it in the "extra springs' box??

The great thing about the Heelclicker is a very easy system to play with. Try the white one then try the maroon one. Like I said it's an easy system to tune, once the weights are in you don't need to pull the clutch out to swap springs.

torkmonster

03-16-2008, 09:49 AM

Turk
So did you get the kit and installed???

Turk

03-16-2008, 03:29 PM

Vern(BigDog800EFI) got the check on Friday...damn snail mail...and is mailing the HC kit out to me on Monday.My guess is i'll have by the end of next week.

Turk

03-16-2008, 03:32 PM

Speaking of the end of next week,on saturday i'm going to look at an older used sportsman for the wife,it's 2001 SP500HO Duck addition,well cared for and all stock.