Rubberdown Customs Swamp-Lox Wheels

[Rubberdown]

First complete set done and ready to go to. This was supposed to be my personal set for my ATV but after some conversations with a fellow from LA, I have decided to sell this set to this gentlemen so that he has a set to race with at the Mud Nats in a couple weeks. I figure its a good way to get them seen :drum:

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j158/rubberdown/swamp%20series%20race%20wheels/P3190554.jpg

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I had 3 sets made in total for personal use for myself and 2 friends from the site, I have 5 more sets being made, the disks will all be black, the rings will be any one of the following colors, Yellow, Red, Blue, and possibly Green. They can do just about any color, but some colors cost more to get done, so I have only listed the basics....

[stricker76]

Nice. How exactly do those valvestems work?? Isn't it just a solid plate they are going into?? or is there a hole drilled in the plate down to the valvestem?

[Rubberdown]

its a secret LOL.

[800Stealth]

The finished product looks great Paul.

[torkmonster]

Looks good Paul... That YELLOW with the black sure would look good on the outty...

[stricker76]

And definatly needs the new logo between the spokes opposite the valvestem.

[hampster_rancher]

HEY!!??!!?? Where are the BLUE ones????????????

[torkmonster]

HEY!!??!!?? Where are the BLUE ones????????????

LOL, maybe he thinks the yellow LOOKS better!!!

:pop2:

[Rubberdown]

no blue for YOU!!!!

just kidding, he should have your blue rings done today....

[hampster_rancher]

:whoo:

[Dirtbmw20]

How about MY blue ones ????????? LMAO.


Paul, shoot me a PM with some info on these things. You never did tell me what a set is gonna cost me and I'm not sure if I ever saw a FINAL weight on them with center disc, outer rings, valve stems, nuts, bolts, etc...... I gotta figure out if they are going to weight effective compared to my aluminum wheels, my little ole 500 ain't got the power them twin bikes do.

[Rubberdown]

Lee, I'll figure it all out this weekend and let you know weight, and total cost for you buddy ;)

[Dirtbmw20]

Lee, I'll figure it all out this weekend and let you know weight, and total cost for you buddy ;)

OK. I'm gonna take a rear wheel off mine this weekend and get a weight on my aluminum SS106 wheel with a 12" Outlaw mounted to it and see if it going to weight effective for me to go that route.

[Rubberdown]

Okay, heres the blue ones added ;)

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j158/rubberdown/swamp%20series%20race%20wheels/P3200566.jpg

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[PROJECT FOREMAN]

Aren't They " Bluetiful " LOL.

[hampster_rancher]

Okay, heres the blue ones added ;)

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j158/rubberdown/swamp%20series%20race%20wheels/P3200566.jpg

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j158/rubberdown/swamp%20series%20race%20wheels/P3200565.jpg

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j158/rubberdown/swamp%20series%20race%20wheels/P3200564.jpg

Those look wicked!!!! Can't wait to see 'em in person!

[Dirtbmw20]

Okay, heres the blue ones added ;)

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j158/rubberdown/swamp%20series%20race%20wheels/P3200566.jpg

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j158/rubberdown/swamp%20series%20race%20wheels/P3200565.jpg

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j158/rubberdown/swamp%20series%20race%20wheels/P3200564.jpg

I want......I want.......I want, says this little kid.

[Rincon1906]

Nice work paul.

[Rubberdown]

Nice work paul.

thanks.

Lee, I put the weight in the other forum, they are about 18 pounds a pop fully loaded with hardware.

[Dirtbmw20]

I've looked but can't find the info.

Anybody know where to get the weight of the ITP SS106 wheels ?????

[Dirtbmw20]

Nevermind, I found it. My SS106 wheels weigh about 9.5lbs each and that's with the lug nuts. I'de be adding a total of 19.6lbs to my bike by going with these wheels and that's changing my rear tires from 12.5's to 9.5's so I'de be running 9.5's on all four corners. That just might be doable !!!!!!!!

[Rubberdown]

its doable buddy, DO IT, DO IT!!!!

[Dirtbmw20]

its doable buddy, DO IT, DO IT!!!!

LOL. How much.......How much ?????????

[torkmonster]

its doable buddy, DO IT, DO IT!!!!

Ya, I wanna see some MOUNTED...

[hampster_rancher]

I want......I want.......I want, says this little kid.

NO TOUCHY!!! Them ones is spoken for!!!! :madgrin: LMAO

They sure do stand out, don't they!

[Rubberdown]

And mounted on a 26 x 10 x 12 Pirellie Mudwiser.

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j158/rubberdown/swamp%20series%20race%20wheels/P3230567.jpg

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[torkmonster]

Sweet Paul. Now I just need to buy me those 28 S'Backs and a set of them!!! Yellow ofcourse!

[hampster_rancher]

That looks cool!!!! Wicked!!!

[popomonster]

ah! a new savings goal! how about camo? lol

[Southern Test Pilot]

They would look even better mounted on Mud Bitches hehe.

[Dirtbmw20]

NO TOUCHY!!! Them ones is spoken for!!!! :madgrin: LMAO

They sure do stand out, don't they!

:hurt:

I don't wanna play with you no more, you don't play fair.

:)

[hampster_rancher]

What kind of tires have you guys seen mounted up on this kind of wheel other than OutLaws/SilverBacks/ EDL's??? Just Curious. With our dollar going for a sh$$, those are out of my reach right now.
I'm thinking about going with skinny Executioners or 28X8 MudZillas.......any thoughts?

[Rookie]

Look great man if i start gettin serious about racin my bike i will definitly look into these.

[pimp800]

hey rubberdown im loving my wheels, im still wanting the aluminum's as well, can i do a trade back in?? LOL.. here's a pic of my 800 for your site, i will try to get you one of my 400 with the red ones..--THANX Doug..

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k201/dougpopham/grilla.jpg

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[BirdDog4x4]

That is one sick looking wheeler pimp800! Welcome to the site!

[Rubberdown]

That is one SWEEEET ASSSS looking machine! Thanks for posting it over here, and we look forward to seeing the red ones, havent seen that color on a machine yet!

I cant take a trade back on them, but I will try and help you sell them if anyone comes around looking for a set of yellows. Were they 12's or 14's, I cant remember?

[hampster_rancher]

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k201/dougpopham/grilla.jpg

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k201/dougpopham/800can.jpg

That thing looks BAD ASS!!! Welcome to RDC!!

[pimp800]

thanks guys, i will try and get some pics of the red ones off the 400 today,
guys i have a set of 12's and 14's that i will let go at a good deal, i wanna get aluminum ones, the 12's are powdercoated red and the 14's are powder coated yellow in excellent conditon, i bought them new here from paul about a month ago, have 3 races on both sets..

[badmaners]

That's a killer lookin' ride!!! And welcome aboard

[pimp800]

hey paul.. you got any of the scrap peices(center peices) that were cut for the inside of the 14 inch rings.. im biulding a little sportsman 90 for my youngest one to mud-race with and wanna put some locks on his 90 and i need 8-11inch diameter rings.. i got the aluminum centers made. i just need the rings...also dont you make a lift for the sportsman 90's...

also dont you need me to test a set of the 14inch aluminum's for ya at the cmr race next weeknd???

[hampster_rancher]

What year 90? This kit will work up to '06 ( All the 2-strokes ) The four strokers are different.
Its a 2 1/2 inch kit and give lots of room for up to 22's if you lengthen the rear swing arm 3 inches.

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t253/hampster_rancher/Connors%2090/LilMonsta003.jpg

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t253/hampster_rancher/Connors%2090/LilMonsta008.jpg

[pimp800]

yea, its a 03 2 stroke ..thats about what im lookin for..

[hampster_rancher]

It'll bolt right up, 20 mins. You will have to cut and lengthen the swing arm. This will make it sit a little high in the rear untill the kid is on it, then it levels out.

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t253/hampster_rancher/Connors%2090/LilMonsta002.jpg

[Rubberdown]

I might have a kit in stock for the 90 but honestly, i think I sold it already, I'll look tonight for you.

I dont have the center peices, but I might be able to get you some the next time I get some steel lox made.

You need 14" aluminum right? I couldnt have them made fast enough for your race, sorry.

[Dirtbmw20]

hey rubberdown im loving my wheels, im still wanting the aluminum's as well, can i do a trade back in?? LOL.. here's a pic of my 800 for your site, i will try to get you one of my 400 with the red ones..--THANX Doug..

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k201/dougpopham/grilla.jpg

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k201/dougpopham/800can.jpg

Welocme to the forums Doug. I'm sure I'll see ya at Doles next week. Ya need to let me race one of them bikes to represent Rubberdown Customs team next week at Doles,lol. Since I put a Gorilla 6" lift on my little ole 500, it threw me into the dang open class with YOU and it's obvious I don't stand a chance.

[pimp800]

I might have a kit in stock for the 90 but honestly, i think I sold it already, I'll look tonight for you.

I dont have the center peices, but I might be able to get you some the next time I get some steel lox made.

You need 14" aluminum right? I couldnt have them made fast enough for your race, sorry.

its OK.. i could alwyas use them at the next race, we got about 5 races coming up every weekend after the next without a break after the 4th of july weeeknd...then a weekend break, then start all over again, this is gettin to be alot of work..LOL!!

also i could use the stell or aluminum for the little 90..please let me know on the lift for it.. thanx

[Rubberdown]

Got some Orange done today for some boys racing in Bama and Florida... Looks really good in person!

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j158/rubberdown/swamp%20series%20race%20wheels/P6260967.jpg

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[Rebel64]

Sweet!!
(I still want black though)

[BOOMERANG]

Those orange & black are going to look good on J2's Arctic Cat.

[Rubberdown]

Not sure whos they are going on Boom, I just know that Devin placed the order for 3 more sets, 2 sets of orange 12's and 1 set of yellow 14's.

[00Boss]

If i ever get any i think orange is the color i will go with. They look Killer.

00

[pimp800]

swamp locks in action,

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k201/dougpopham/amber11.jpg

[dodge34]

Welocme to the forums Doug. I'm sure I'll see ya at Doles next week. Ya need to let me race one of them bikes to represent Rubberdown Customs team next week at Doles,lol. Since I put a Gorilla 6" lift on my little ole 500, it threw me into the dang open class with YOU and it's obvious I don't stand a chance.

hey is there any chance i can get more pics of your lift thanks
justin

[ready2goriding]

Those are all very nice, but the blue is trully awesome looking!

I wished that I had a good reason for some of those... Great job!

[stricker76]

They look awesome!! What more reason do ya need Doug?

[ready2goriding]

They look awesome!! What more reason do ya need Doug?

Prolly going all wide. David says that is kick-but!

[dcfox]

The Lox look awesome...but I don't race so they don't fit my needs.
Doubt they fit Doug's needs either.

[Rubberdown]

Guys, myself and a lot of others have been trail riding the crap out of these, and honeslty, I love them for trails, never have to worry about popping a bead off the wheel, and great side lug traction.

[dcfox]

but no flotation in the water right?

[Rubberdown]

if you pump em full of air, sure.

[dcfox]

Well crap...now even more consideration.lol.

[hampster_rancher]

David, I ran 28X12 Mudzillas on LoX on all 4 corners on my Polaris.....they worked AWESOME on trails. You can run whatever air psi in them you want to make them float. Or, you could run aluminum ones in the front ( to save weight and help the front end to come up easier in the water ) and steel ones in the rear ( to keep the rears on the bottom ). They work great in the ruts by wrapping the tread WAY around the side....and as an added bonus, they will NEVER pop off the bead.

[dcfox]

Wonder how they would be on staggered size Silverbacks.(12's in back and 10's in front)
My Rhino is just a 450 so I'm wondering...fats in back/skinnies in front...fats on all 4 or skinnies on all 4.

[ready2goriding]

The Lox look awesome...but I don't race so they don't fit my needs.
Doubt they fit Doug's needs either.

They don't. But it's fun to look and say "what if?" All wide 31's and those wheels could be very cool...

[ready2goriding]

What about wide 31's on Lox, with 10 psi or so? Would look great, but on trails, water & mud, what would happen then?

[stricker76]

I'll let ya know in about a month.

[ready2goriding]

I'll let ya know in about a month.

Greatness! Someone with kohonas!

[ready2goriding]

I'll let ya know in about a month.

Has it been a month yet? No pressure. LOL

[stricker76]

Another 2 weeks.

[ready2goriding]

I'm hanging...

I think I am more nervous than you are!

[mud_33]

ok it intrestes me lol now that to paul i under stand what they do :) less air less tod surface cut through the mud and dont float

now i would like to sifen ur juicy brain for infor please tell me everything i need to know about lox (how much air,high of tire differance,what a good tire ,how they act differant) anything and everything i may just want to buy a set

[hampster_rancher]

Steel LoX are heavy, keep you on the bottom
Aluma LoX are light, rob less power due to less rotating mass.

You WILL require at least a 1" spacer all around to run them on your Popo.

Run them flat for racing, pump them up for trails (I usually run 15lbs for fast trails.)

Silverbacks work great on them. EDL's probably handle the worst on them. Mudzilla's are the most trail friendly on them (Wide Mudzilla's work the best on LoX, the tread crosses over more....GREAT COMBO)

[Bad Kitty]

If your not a racer, the steelies would work good for ya Stan.

[ready2goriding]

You WILL require at least a 1" spacer all around to run them on your Popo.



Do 'Lox add or decrease wheel offsets? Just curious...

[stricker76]

They have no offset at all.

[ready2goriding]

They have no offset at all.

So I should factor in my factory offsets to determine width?

[stricker76]

Width of what? They are 1/4" thick plates

[hampster_rancher]

They will make your machine wider (half of whatever your negative offset is.)

The spacers are only so the LoX will clear the hubs.

[ready2goriding]

I was discussing the overall width of my bike- before (Lox) and after...

Just wondering if I would be wider or narrower...

[ready2goriding]

They will make your machine wider (half of whatever your negative offset is.)

The spacers are only so the LoX will clear the hubs.

Gotcha! Thanks!

[stricker76]

Ohhh, sorry i thought you meant rim width. lol

[hampster_rancher]

I was discussing the overall width of my bike- before (Lox) and after...

Just wondering if I would be wider or narrower...

Wider by (the width of spacer) + roughly 2 - 2 1/2"

[ready2goriding]

Ohhh, sorry i thought you meant rim width. lol

Wider by (the width of spacer) + roughly 2 - 2 1/2"

No problem, Scott- I'm prolly too dumb to ask the right question! Learning tho!

Hammy, I'm thinking that the aluminum Lox with all wides could come in handy when the big (31" or so) tires show up...

Thanks, guys!

[mud_33]

do lox make the tire profile higher ?

[Rubberdown]

No mud, I thought they would but they ride a tiny bit shorter this way, they DO give you one hell of a great side lug profile though.

[Bad Kitty]

I bought all wides for that reason Stan, I was wrong. Again. Lol

I do have some steelies that I'll sell ya though. Good price, just shipping will be a bi***.

[The Kid]

I bought all wides for that reason Stan, I was wrong. Again. Lol

I do have some steelies that I'll sell ya though. Good price, just shipping will be a bi***.

how much shipped to 75501 usa

[mud_33]

hmm pm me a price ? please and thanx

[Bad Kitty]

how much shipped to 75501 usa

I'll check into it, but they weigh as much as I do. Lol

[mud_33]

well pm me it might not be as much to me in ont

[850XPEPS]

check into shipping by greyhound price might not be bad

[dcfox]

Whats the weight on an Aluminum 12"?
I've got both sets of my 12" wheels sold...have a set of 14" ITP Sportlocks with 28" Zillas coming for the Rhino...and have a set of 28" Skinny/Wide Silverbacks that will need some wheels if I decide to keep them.

[racer37l]

Might be nice if Paul could give us the weight of a set of 12" steel, 14" steel, 12" aluminum, and 14" aluminum Swamplox wheels. Thanks

[Rubberdown]

12" steel 66 lbs.
14" steel 78 lbs.
12" alum. 18lbs.
14" alum. 23 lbs.

I'm pretty sure this is our shipping weights, give or take a pound or 2, this is the wheels and rings, the shipping box, a pound of shipping shrink wrap and tape, all the hard ware and the 3 instal threaded rods.

[dcfox]

awesome...thanks Paul.
Does anyone have pics of 28" backs mounted on them?
I'm curious as to how skinny/wide would look.
If wide would be better...there is a guy on that other site wanting to swap 2 of his wides for a pair of skinnies.

[Bad Kitty]

My pics won't load, but my MP has all wides on 12" steelies. Looks good, but they never got any taller with the wides.

[dcfox]

dont need taller.wish i could see the pics

[Bad Kitty]

Check some of the race pics. Should be there in Minden. Lefte has pics from Minden, up against fence and in pit. I'm still tryin.

[dcfox]

could always email me a couple...
dcfox@windstream.net

[Bad Kitty]

Lemme know what ya think DC.

[dcfox]

Those look cool...were they wides on all 4 or skinnies?

[ready2goriding]

I can see more tires & wheels in David's FUTURE...

The man has a gift!

[dcfox]

just read up...all wides...duh.
Well Doug...if "someone" waits too long...there might be a set of 29.5x12x12 outlaws on the Rhino.lol.(heck...they are already mounted on wheels that will bolt up.lol)

[ready2goriding]

just read up...all wides...duh.
Well Doug...if "someone" waits too long...there might be a set of 29.5x12x12 outlaws on the Rhino.lol.(heck...they are already mounted on wheels that will bolt up.lol)

GRRRR....

I just got the front spacers already! :frusty:

[Bad Kitty]

Those look cool...were they wides on all 4 or skinnies?

I thought that if I got wides, they may get taller when squished. Wrong. We all know what thought did.hahaah
They make your machine more capable then U will ever imagine. Go anywhere wheels and tires they are.

[dcfox]

Trust me...if my Rhino was back together...i would have bolted them up and snapped some pics...just to torment you.

If i can figure out a way to swing it...I may try to pick up a set of Lox for these Silverbacks.
Cant decide if the weight savings of the aluminum ones is worth the cost increase for me.

[ready2goriding]

Trust me...if my Rhino was back together...i would have bolted them up and snapped some pics...just to torment you.

That's just wrong!

If i can figure out a way to swing it...I may try to pick up a set of Lox for these Silverbacks.
Cant decide if the weight savings of the aluminum ones is worth the cost increase for me.

That's a lot of weight to consider, but on an already heavy sxs- who knows?

[dcfox]

12" steel 66 lbs.
14" steel 78 lbs.
12" alum. 18lbs.
14" alum. 23 lbs.

I'm pretty sure this is our shipping weights, give or take a pound or 2, this is the wheels and rings, the shipping box, a pound of shipping shrink wrap and tape, all the hard ware and the 3 instal threaded rods.

Paul...is that a mis-print...or for some reason are the 12" Lox heavier than the 14" Lox?(and are these weights are per wheel/per pair or set of 4?)

[Bad Kitty]

Trust me...if my Rhino was back together...i would have bolted them up and snapped some pics...just to torment you.

If i can figure out a way to swing it...I may try to pick up a set of Lox for these Silverbacks.
Cant decide if the weight savings of the aluminum ones is worth the cost increase for me.

Personally, if U don't race save your money. Mine were only on one trail ride and they aren't bad at all. Like I say, the ruts are different cause of the side bite. U don't have the worry of breakin a wrist driving the sxs. In low gear this beater will climb trees if I wanted to.haha
I was NEVER stuck, only broke once. U seen the trails at St. Willys that were posted. Some knarly sheeet fo sho. Never even blinked, just kept bittin and rollin.

[dcfox]

My deal for weight isn't for racing...but the fact that my Rhino is just a 450...and every bit of extra weight I can save helps.

[ready2goriding]

^^^ n2o! Ftw!

[Bad Kitty]

Well bro, they truely do help ALOT. Guarantee no matter which way U go, U won't be disappointed runnin a set of lox.

[Rubberdown]

Sorry David, all fixed up, and those weights are per set of 4 in the box ready to ship.

[dcfox]

so then...subtracting the packaging weight(lets assume 3 lbs)...
We're looking at each wheel being approx.:

12" steel 15.75 lbs.
14" steel 18.75 lbs.
12" alum. 3.75 lbs.
14" alum. 5 lbs.

this sound about right?

I guess that would make the steel Lox weigh a little more than your average aluminum atv wheel...and the aluminum Lox weigh about the same as the lug nuts.lol.

[Rubberdown]

Ya, I would weight them all tinight but I dont have any aluminum lox in stock right now, sorry.

[dcfox]

Well...I guess I need to start saving my pennies.

[stricker76]

I can wiegh the 14" aluminum lox alone tomorrow morning if ya want

[ready2goriding]

^^^ Sounds expensive...

[hampster_rancher]

I can wiegh the 14" aluminum lox alone tomorrow morning if ya want

Why do you have to be alone to weigh them? LMAO!

[dcfox]

Not necessary Scott...I just wanted an approximate weight.
For the money...I'd probably go with the steelies anyway.

[Rebel64]

Originally Posted by stricker76 http://rubberdowncustoms.ca/forum/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://rubberdowncustoms.ca/forum/showthread.php?p=179918#post179918)
I can wiegh the 14" aluminum lox alone tomorrow morning if ya want

Why do you have to be alone to weigh them? LMAO!

I don't think I wanna know!

[stricker76]

Okey dokie.

And i meant individually smartass. lol

[dcfox]

I know that I don't want to know.lol.

[Spout]

Can you give me an idea of the tire width 9" ,10" ,12"? or does it matter as long as they are all the same? and does it add any extra hight to the tire once it's mounted?

[Rubberdown]

you can use any tire size you like and they do not have to be the same width. also, they wont make the tires taller

[Jimmy]

Just a quick question, have you known anyone to run MudLite XTR's on these wheels?

[swampthing]

^^I've never...almost seems a little redundant. I don't see how they will serve their purpose as well with the smaller lug tire. I'm no expert and would try it anyway if I had em' so give er.