Can Ams Rock

[Southern Test Pilot]

That's right Paul don't be angered.

[Rubberdown]

Buddy, I seriouly can wait to take that Gade for a spin, I am pumped thinking about it, it MUST just fly eh!

[ramit98]

Nice to see ya still kicking Brad... gade hasnt got ya yet ??? :twisted:

[Turk]

I had a can-am in my garage for a few months.I was letting my cousin keep there because he needed a secure place to park it.It was a 2006 Outlander 800 V Twin EFI.I took it out a few times for a spin and I was blown away by the performance of the machine.No I wasnt blown away enough to crossover from the polaris side but it left me wanting something bigger than my sportsman 500.

["Bankrupt"]

speed they have....

its durability in the frame and a half ass locking front diff they dont have.

in their commercials they says industry leading power and torque.. but they mention nothing about durable frame and how much of a POS their visco lock is.

[Turk]

I'm eyeing the 08 sportsman 800 HO.


My cousin had a lot of problems with his visco lock but I think it was because he was running 29" outlaws.I had heard about visco lock problems on the 06 can-ams when running tires over 27".That and the exploding clutch helix and his rearend seal also blew out as well.

[2X4MAN]

I had an 06 800 with 27" Laws. The visco lok did fine on it as long as you hold the throttle steady. If you ever let off the throttle and get back in it the visco lok takes about three revolutions to engage again. It did take a little longer for it to engage with 29.5 on it than with 27s though. And like was said before the power was great!!!:bolt:

[live for can-am]

can ams nuthun but the best id rather get drug behind a honda than ride a polaris

[popomonster]

:der:that can be arranged

[Rubberdown]

can ams nuthun but the best id rather get drug behind a honda than ride a polaris

LOL, Welcome to the site, I hope you can get some more action in this forum for us, and get some fellow can am riders to register here ;)

[live for can-am]

well yall dont believe in them or somthun there the mist reliable machine out there not no polaris come on now

[Bigdog800EFI]

I think there is only 8 or 10 can am riders left. They all switched back to Honda.

[live for can-am]

honda is about the worst thing u can ride u pay for four whell drive and get three thats really four whell drive there

[Dirtbmw20]

can ams nuthun but the best id rather get drug behind a honda than ride a polaris

LMAO...... Yea, you go ahead and think that. Can Am is FAR from the best, hell, all of them are far from being the best. Now if we could take one or two things from each manufacture and put them all together in one bike, THEN we may have the best.

Ask Polaris700 how many Can Am's won at the last mud bog we were at and ask him how many Polaris's won in the same mud bog. He even has one of his favorite pics I'm sure he'll post up here for ya.

[live for can-am]

well u kno wat the word polaris stands for the first 2 letters and the last make pos and pos means piece of **** hahahahahahaha just a personal opinion but also u wana talk bout boggin look at the 06 mud nationals exacly can_am all the way

[Dirtbmw20]

Yea, I'll talk mud bogs all day long. All yall can quit dwelling on a mud bog that happened almost TWO years ago, I'm talking about the MOST RECENT mud bog where all the big high dollar factory sponsored bikes were at. Can Am didn't fair too well.

Oh yea, they are all piece of shits when they break down on ya and leave ya stranded.

[live for can-am]

sooo yer sayin a can am wont out do a polaris any day of the weeek

[Dirtbmw20]

sooo yer sayin a can am wont out do a polaris any day of the weeek


Show me where I said that !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Rubberdown]

I would personally put my 2004 500HO sportsman against any machine of the same size with the same or similar mods in a mud bog race, or just playing in the water or mud. But thats just me. I do know that theres no way I could beat a machine with a 6" + lift or a big bore motor or anything else extreme but i wouldnt shy away from ANY machine in the same class ever. But again, thats just my opinion, and we are all entitled to one, so please, lets all play nice okay ;)

I will also say this, I rode that Renegade 800 this summer, what a powerfull SOB, but still, I'd rather ride my machine, i have grown to like my heavy tank of a 500 sportsman....

[live for can-am]

well u said I'm talking about the MOST RECENT mud bog where all the big high dollar factory sponsored bikes were at. Can Am didn't fair too well.
and thats sayin that polaris is better than can am!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! take it easy dont take it serious

[live for can-am]

well u ever been to nyota rubberdown u want to have a distance contest in the hell hole saounds good to me im only a 400 but ill try ya

[Rubberdown]

LOL, if we lived closer to each other brother, I'd be all over it, i have this problem where I dont shy away from doing dumb things so a distance thing would be easy for me to agree too..... however, I think i have finally learned to STOP going (or trying to go) around docks in lakes that are over 6 feet deep LOL.

[live for can-am]

hahahahah u tried one and how far r u from birmingham

[Dirtbmw20]

well u said I'm talking about the MOST RECENT mud bog where all the big high dollar factory sponsored bikes were at. Can Am didn't fair too well.
and thats sayin that polaris is better than can am!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! take it easy dont take it serious


Live For, I promise, I am taking it easy. And YES, I DID say the most recent mud bog where all the big high dollar factory sponsored bikes were at, that includes the Gorilla Can Ams and the High Lifter Polaris bikes, and NO, Can Am didn't fair too well. I think they only won one race out of ALL the bogs. This was the first bog I had seen the Can Ams race at and I was highly disappointed in their showing, especially with all the big dollar teams that were there. There were guys there that had $17,000 bucks tied up in their Can Ams and man oh man they left the line like a fricking rocket but once they got in the water, the Polaris walked the dog on them. I'm sorry to say it, but on THAT particular day of the week, Polaris was WAY better than Can Am.

And RD, I AM playing nice,lol,lol.

[Rubberdown]

I tried 2 docks way out too far in 2 different lakes LOL, the lake one :(

I'm in Canada dude, but I was at the 06 mud nats in Texas and I did race in the muddacross in the 500 class.

[Rubberdown]

I know Lee ;)

[live for can-am]

ohhhhhh ok i aint got nuthun against polaris and all its just all personal opionion and where was that bog at doles and u serioud 17000 dollars in a can am wow wat all did they have

[Dirtbmw20]

Yea, the bog was at Doles. And YES, there was a guy there that had $17,000 tied up in his Can Am, I liked to fell out when he told me that. He goes by GreenHead on the HL forums. He has CRAZY money tied up in that thing. I just really expected Can Am to do much better than they did that day. I still couldn't believe the power those things had coming off the line but after that they just didn't do much.

Man, he had the frame stretched an extra 6 inches, of course a huge Gorilla lift (not no puny 6" lift) and TONS of motor mods along with nitrous and I'm sure alot of other stuff we don't know about. He use to own a HUGE Arctic Cat but sold that to buy his Can Am. And the bad part about the whole thing is they were running them 3 per race and he came in LAST in his race.

I'm a big fan of four wheelers man, I don't really have a personal preference so to speak, I like them ALL. The only reason a Polaris is my personal preference right now is because that's what I make payments on,lol,lol. I can say that the Polaris HAS been good to me and this is my very first Polaris but I think if I had to do it over again, AND KNOW WHAT I KNOW NOW, I would probally get me a Brute or a bigger Polaris.

[live for can-am]

yea the brutes are bad ive owned a polaris 800 and all it did was break it was worth anything to me that one wasnt at least every can am ive saw is durable and i have saw some polarisis that i like to u seen that new army edition with 5000 pound winches on front and rear stell bumpers its bad but wat gets u is the price tag u talkin 1300 for it

[Bigdog800EFI]

Let em Guess, Live for, are you 15 years old?

[live for can-am]

nooooo who told u that

[Bigdog800EFI]

Just an educated guess. Kleinwild has $17,000 in his 6" lift Renegade also.

[Dirtbmw20]

Just an educated guess. Kleinwild has $17,000 in his 6" lift Renegade also.


Yep, I forgot all about Kleinwild.

[live for can-am]

wow there wat u call stupid or just plain out rich

[Dirtbmw20]

LMAO. Live For, I'm with you brotha, that's what I call STUPID money too.

[live for can-am]

i could but a nice truck for that or make a years amount of housse payments just somthun useful not a forewheller and also wats lmao mean

[Bigdog800EFI]

Like Music And Opera

[live for can-am]

ohh ok well yall kno where i can get my 400 snorkled at

[Dirtbmw20]

Vern...... Like Music And Opera ????? LOL,LOL, You ain't right, how in the hell did you think of that one ???


Live For, you gotta watch out for Bigdog, he'll mess with ya from time to time.

LMAO means Laughing My Ass Off.

[Bigdog800EFI]

My mind is the only thing that still works. To old and fat to run around and act stupid so I just talk it.;)

[live for can-am]

hahahahahahahahahaha funny well yall know where i could get a 400 outlander snorkled

[Rubberdown]

try www.statelinecustoms.com and tell them rubberdown sent ya ;) They might have a kit for ya, but I'm not positive.

[Dirtbmw20]

I don't know of any place that sells snorkels for the Can Ams. Just do it yourself, not much to it. I've snorkeled both my Sportsmans by myself and done a Grizzly and a Kodiak too. Here is a pic of mine (the blue one) ................................. sorry for all the water......
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h260/Dirtbmw20/Deep.jpg


And here is a pic of my wife's.................................

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h260/Dirtbmw20/Amysbike.jpg

[live for can-am]

ok thanks do they do a GOOD job u got anything done there

[live for can-am]

well dirtbmw20 u interested in another job

[Dirtbmw20]

well dirtbmw20 u interested in another job

Where do you live at ??? Where is Chelsea at ??? I would be more than glad to help you do it if you live close enough to Georgia.

[live for can-am]

yea i live in alabama i also need a cooler for the front rack how much u think we talkin for everything

[Dirtbmw20]

What kind of cooler for the front rack are you talking about ???

As far as cost for snorkeling, you can usually snorkel a bike for anywhere from $30.00 to $50.00 bucks, it don't cost much at all to do it.

[live for can-am]

ightt im up for it well im talkin bout a cooler relocated to my front rack like u got

[Dirtbmw20]

Oooooh OK, you're talking about relocating the radiator. I thought you were talking about a "beverage" cooler. All that is, is the factory radiators relocated up to the front rack. I also build the brackets to relocate them too but I have never even seen a Can Am radiator so that would all be new to me. Here are two more BETTER pics of the wife's bike. I personally did her radiator and her snorkels all by myself. The photos are of her in the mud bog at Doles last month, photos are compliments of Polaris700.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v298/ereagan2180/doles%2011-07/P1020275.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v298/ereagan2180/doles%2011-07/P1020276.jpg

[Dirtbmw20]

ightt im up for it well im talkin bout a cooler relocated to my front rack like u got

Relocating the radiator would be the most time consuming thing, as far as snorkels go, we could do the snorkel job in a day.

[live for can-am]

ahhh hell yea im up for it wen can u do it and how much we talkin u think forr the snorkle and the radiator upped it will be more than 200

[Dirtbmw20]

$200.00 would be a high figure, I would think it could be done for alot less. It usually takes about $30.00 in materials (metal) to build a radiator frame then you'll have to buy a few hoses to extend them up to the front rack. It cost me about $50.00 bucks to relocate my radiators on each of my bikes then about another $30.00 - $50.00 to buy the snorkel fittings and spa hose. I work one weekend out of the month (THIS weekend just happens to be my weekend to work too), other than that, I am off and free on the weekends so I could help you whenever you wanted to.

[live for can-am]

ohh so u work only once and then the rest u r free to work on quads ok well if i was to give u my bike and no materials u think u could get it done in one day and i would give u 200 dollars at the end im willing to pay that u up for it

[Mole]

can ams nuthun but the best id rather get drug behind a honda than ride a polaris

:nono: LOL

As for the Mud Bogs you guys are talking about I think the operators of the machines have alot to do with winning or not. I know a good bike is a BIG plus BUT the operator has to know how to ride also.:D

[Dirtbmw20]

Alright, let me clarify a few things. First, I don't work on other peoples quads in my spare time, I barely have spare time to work on my own. Second, I said I would HELP you, that means you work on the bike with me, not me by myself. Third, completing ALL that in one day is not very likely, you are talking about a weekend project, not a day project. Hell, it takes the better part of a day just to build a radiator bracket, ESPECIALLY on a bike that I'm not familiar with and have never worked on before. AND, if I had to do it all by myself, then it would cost more than $200.00 for the whole project, the cost figure I gave you was with you HELPING with the project doing the "majority" of the work. There's no way I would do all that work all by myself for only $200.00. I was just trying to lend you a hand and help, not do the project by myself. I have two bikes of my own that I have to work on and right now as we speak, my bike is down in the shop and not driveable because I need a radiator frame for mine too. I am re-doing my snorkels all over just like I did my wife's so therefore I have to build ME another radiator frame. The one that WAS on my bike is now taken off and is being sold to Popo500efi so I have to completely re-do my own bike so I already have a major project sitting in my garage right now as we speak.

And now for my fourth and final question...... What in the world are your parents gonna do when you come back home with your bike all cut up into pieces and stacks sticking up everywhere ??? I know my dad would kick my ass if I did that to something he bought me.

[live for can-am]

haha yep that has alot of stuff to do with it though but also u got to have a reliable machine

[Dirtbmw20]

:nono: LOL

As for the Mud Bogs you guys are talking about I think the operators of the machines have alot to do with winning or not. I know a good bike is a BIG plus BUT the operator has to know how to ride also.:D

You are very correct, but there were some VERY experienced riders on the two main bikes I am referring to. Anybody that is gonna sink $17,000 grand in a bike is gonna have some experience, you don't just drop that kind of money on a bog bike if you have no experience.

[live for can-am]

hahahh yea well he wont mind it gonna be my mom and yea man im up for working with u ill do watever it takes as long as i got somone who knows wat the hell there doin im good ill help u do watever

[Dirtbmw20]

Hey.... a pissed off mom can be worse than a pissed off dad. I wouldn't have dared do something like this to one of my bikes when I was a kid or teenager, my parents would have put a foot in my ass but now that I'm 38, I can do stupid stuff like this and not get into any trouble. AND.... I never said I knew what I was doing,lol, I'm just a mechanically inclined person that likes to work on stuff. A Can Am will be all new territory to me, it will be like starting over from scratch.

As far as your jetting question, like I said a Can Am is all new to me but you shouldn't have to re-jet just because you snorkel the bike. The goal is not to bring more air into the engine, it is just to seal everything so it is water tight. Once it is all said and done, it should "breath" just like it did when it was stock.

[live for can-am]

ohh well ill just snorkle my mom just said i can snorkle soo u think this is a day job if im workin with u

[Dirtbmw20]

I would think so, like I said, I have never messed with a Can Am but I feel pretty confident we could do a snorkel job in a full day. You need to let mom know UP FRONT that you will have to cut on the plastics to do a snorkel job. Them plastics ain't cheap either.

[live for can-am]

ohh i can get a radiator now she said she dont care and yes she nows that ul have to cut the hell out of the plastic its fine!!!!!! she dont care i paying for the forewheller payments anyways

[live for can-am]

if this is fine with u let me kno i gotta get it done soon thanks

[BadAm]

Let em Guess, Live for, are you 15 years old?
You read my mind.

[BadAm]

i could but a nice truck for that or make a years amount of housse payments just somthun useful not a forewheller and also wats lmao mean

sure mom's gonna let you get out of house payments for a whole months

[torkmonster]

LOL!! No doubt.....

[N.I.B.]

speed they have....

its durability in the frame and a half ass locking front diff they dont have.

in their commercials they says industry leading power and torque.. but they mention nothing about durable frame and how much of a POS their visco lock is.


LOL I just had to pull this back up.

["Bankrupt"]

LOL I just had to pull this back up.

That's why I bought a 09. The frames are damn near bullet proof now, the visco lock is much improved and is even better on the 2010 models (but my 09 is really good, not quite as good as the Polaris IMO but it's by far well above everything else)

[choPppps]

So far my 2010 Max has been awesome! The DPS is sweet. Makes the Max feel much more nimble than any bike without power stearing. Also, the fuel mileage is great on this thing.

[got wake?]

That's why I bought a 09. The frames are damn near bullet proof now, the visco lock is much improved and is even better on the 2010 models (but my 09 is really good, not quite as good as the Polaris IMO but it's by far well above everything else)


the frames haven't changed. the visco does lock quicker on the '09's, but the power steering models it is instant. the visco on the PS models i would put ahead of the polaris system, and thankfully it is something that can be upgraded on the older models. course i'm waiting to see how the newer QE diffs handle huge tires first. one of the reasons can-ams don't hardly ever break front axles is because of the visco system acting as a dampener to shock loads. i'm worried that the faster locking could mean more axle trouble.

[choPppps]

I would have to agree, the visco on my bike is damn near instant.

[shane2977]

the frames haven't changed. the visco does lock quicker on the '09's, but the power steering models it is instant. the visco on the PS models i would put ahead of the polaris system, and thankfully it is something that can be upgraded on the older models. course i'm waiting to see how the newer QE diffs handle huge tires first. one of the reasons can-ams don't hardly ever break front axles is because of the visco system acting as a dampener to shock loads. i'm worried that the faster locking could mean more axle trouble.

I think your right. I have been paying attention to the XMR's with respect to the axles, and apparently they keep breaking. I was talking to a guy on the trail 2 weeks ago who was telling me he seen an XMR's front diff housing break. The collar that holds the bearing and seal busted off leaving a big hole. The XMR has the QE with 30" tires.

[swampthing]

Uh,....for the record I kick the livin' SH*T outta my X mr EVERY weekend (1200kms since mid October) and only ever broke 1 axle that was strictly due to MY inability to have proper control of my thumb in a precarious situation. The vast majority of broken axles on these machines are done in REVERSE!! I have yet to complain about the Q.E with my 30's, but who knows what's to come.

[shane2977]

I'm not ripping on them. I ride a 2011 Renegade X xc and it's awesome. I couldn't be happier with mine. Although, Snow City is ordering new rear axles for it. They're telling me the CV's need to be replaced. I'm a bit concerned as the machine only has 60hrs and about 200 km's on it and there not hard km's either.

[blackie]

i have a 2010 xxc it is 100 times better then my 09 as so far the qe works i love it i ride hard with no problems so far i also love the power steering if u watch my new vids with the new machines in it u can c the qe works great and i cant wait to give it a good work out in the skeg check my vids out on you tube under blackie205