Ranger springs

[duse]

Dont know if it's true or not ,but

I'm hearing the ranger springs or some HD springs will add 1 1/2 to 2 inch's to the front?

Wouldent that be the same as putting a lift on?
Would you have to raise the shock also ?

[Rubberdown]

If you think about it, they would be removing the sag from the soft worn out sh!tty springs that came stock..... unless they were also longer than the stock springs, then it would be kinda like a bit of a lift I guess????

[Turk]

A 2" lift revived my sagging front end and gave new life to my stock springs.I was going to get HD springs but am happy with the way things are with the lift alone,took all the sag out of the front end.I'm gonna run the stcok springs with the lift and only relpace them if they really need to be in the future.

[BIG_T]

Ranger springs don't actually "lift" the front end. All they do is give you back the sag from the factory springs, which might be anywhere from 1/2" to 2-3" depending on your bike. When I bought my bike the first thing I did was put a winch, front brushguard, and a few other things on my bike, and this made the front end sink about 3 inches just sitting on the floor. I put ranger springs on next and now it sits like it did before I put all that stuff on. It's very easy to replace the springs, and it costs aobut 70 bucks for the ranger springs, which come in 4 different colors including black, silver, orange, and red.
Basically, to see what it will look like with the ranger springs, put a jack under the front and jack it up until the front wheels are just touching the ground. This is the height it will be at with Ranger springs. If you want more than that, you will need a lift kit.
If you do decide to put the ranger springs on, here is a procedure:
1. Remove the front box. There are 4 cap head screw on the inside, 2 torx head scews on each side in the back of the box, and 2 torx head screws on each side in the footwell.
2. Remove the top strut bolt from each side. You will have to hold the shock with a 3/8" wrench while you turn the nut with a 3/4" wrench. Remove the washer and bushing.
3. Jack up the front end of the bike. As you do this the wheels struts will drop out of the top strut mount.
4. Once the strut has dropped out, remove the plastic bushing and remove the second nut on the shock. Pull the retaining washer off and pull the spring off.
5. Put the new spring on, replace the retaining washer, and install the nut. If you have someone handy it's much easier if someone pushes down on the spring and the other person puts the nut on, but you can do it yourself if you have to. Put the bushing back on.
6. Repeat steps 4 and 5 on the other side.
7. Align the top of the shocks so they will go back in the top shock mount when you lower the bike. Lower the front of the ATV. Again, is helps if you have a friend handy so one person can lower it while the other person hold the shocks so it drops back in right.
8. Replace the bushings and washers and tighten down the locknut on the top of the shock.
9. Reinstall the front box.

That's basically it.
Any questions?

[duse]

Thanks Guys ,
I know what the lift does , I know what the Ranger spring's do,I also know how to switch the springs.

To be more exact ,I'm trying to figure out why you wouldent need the spacer under the shock with the spring as you do with the lift?
It does gain 2" in hieght so it would make sense to add a spacer???:noidea:

[Rubberdown]

duse, I dont think any spring alone will give you a lift, because the shock itself has a maximum travel length with the piston or shaft or whatever the hell its called, so a longer or stiffer spring would just keep that maxed out to the fullest length the shock has. No if you were to put in a s[acer down inside the aluminum strut cartrigde, you would probably achieve your lift this way with the longer or stiffer springs..... But I still say just get ahold of that rubberdown clown and order one of his lifts LOL ;) That and a stiffer set of springs and you will be just like him :D

[popomonster]

Ok, I will try to get this down right. When I got my 800 I had the dealer put 27” swamp lites on. They suggested that I put a “lift” on the front to keep the tires from rubbing.

I watched them put the “lift” on, removed the front tires, compressed the spring, bolted 2 steel rings around the shock at the top of the strut, than released the spring. The result was a taller stance, but not a true lift. The max length of the strut had not changed, it was just being held at full extension. At the time I was thinking this was cool, I know better now. This setup made the front very stiff, the limited travel made obstacle negotiation clumsy.

With RD’s lift I gained over 2” in the total length of the strut, and reduced the preload on the spring. The increase in travel made the front end more responsive. Actually softened the ride, but still lifted the bike.

So if you put the springs on without the spacers at the base of the shock tube, all that is really changing is the preload on the spring. Just my opinion, hope this helps.

[popomonster]

dang RD types faster:)

[Rubberdown]

that my 2 finger hen pec style typing ;)

[duse]

QUOTE=Rubberdown;9670]duse, I dont think any spring alone will give you a lift, because the shock itself has a maximum travel length with the piston or shaft or whatever the hell its called, so a longer or stiffer spring would just keep that maxed out to the fullest length the shock has. No if you were to put in a s[acer down inside the aluminum strut cartrigde, you would probably achieve your lift this way with the longer or stiffer springs..... But I still say just get ahold of that rubberdown clown and order one of his lifts LOL ;) That and a stiffer set of springs and you will be just like him :D[/QUOTE]

Ok, it might not be a true lift,but the spring Does raise the front end 2".I saw it with my own 2 eyes.
I agree with BIGT_SPMN,They are crap springs to begin with,then add a #3500 winch,double tube bumpers, and your frontend is down,that dosent even include the Glacier Plow System.
So maybe thats why useing just the springs without a spacer works,,,all your doing is rasing the bike up to where it was??What do ya think of that?

EVERBODY PAY CLOSE ATTN: HERE,
WATCH ME CUT THE BIG GUY OFF AT THE KNEES
But I still say just get ahold of that rubberdown clown and order one of his lifts LOL ;) That and a stiffer set of springs and you will be just like him
But Paul
Everyone knows HIGHLIFTER has a better lift:fencing::laser:

[popomonster]

:doh:

[Rubberdown]

But Paul
Everyone knows HIGHLIFTER has a better lift:fencing::laser:

:jaw: :ban:

[Dirtbmw20]

duse getting brave ain't he ?????? lol,lol.

Them's fighting words !!!!

[duse]

QUOTE=Rubberdown;9699]:jaw: :ban:[/QUOTE
:banplease:
Thats what you get for trying to sell me another one of your lifts
I already have the 1.5 rear and 2" front
When I sold the 05 800,That did not go with it.:bounce:
:focus:
Ok, it might not be a true lift,but the spring Does raise the front end 2".I saw it with my own 2 eyes.
I agree with BIGT_SPMN,They are crap springs to begin with,then add a #3500 winch,double tube bumpers, and your frontend is down,that dosent even include the Glacier Plow System.
So maybe thats why useing just the springs without a spacer works,,,all your doing is rasing the bike up to where it was??What do ya think of that?
and then the progressive has one (thats on my 500)that goes under the spring and new springs but nothing under the shock

[Rubberdown]

LOL, thats too funny dude, sorry hahahaha :D

[cd]

just something to consider: if your adding weight to the front end the ranger springs would be a good idea, but personally if you have a stock weight front end it may be detrimental to shock life as they will be always pulled to full extention and banging off their internal stops, if I was going to put ranger springs on for a lift I would atleast get the "pucks" from paul that go under the shocks, that way in the sitting still position the shocks aren't maxed out or very close., if you understand what I mean???

[duse]

Good point cd.
Now if you just went for a heavy duty spring (EPI,Progressive,HL etc )at the same size .The puck would not be nessassary.Right?
Well anyway
I did put the RSD front lift on the front as for the rear I dont want to go the 1.5" that I have,I thinking more on the line of a 3/4" or 1" just enough to stiffen the rear spring up.

[cd]

i have a ranger and a 700 in the shop right now, I am going to try to do a quick comparison one of these first days.

[cd]

on a ranger (500 with IRS) and a Sp700 Both sitting still not jacked up or anything just weight of the machine there is a two inch difference in the two with the ranger being longer, the diameter of the spring material is also quite larger on the ranger probably 1/16-1/8 inch difference. I don't have time to tear them both apart to see what the springs measure out of the machine or I would.

[duse]

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