Airbox snorks

[Rebel64]

Trying to figure out the airbox situation for when I snorkel mine.
Thought about the metal sealed box like Turner sells, but I don't want the single filter on one pipe on the exterior.
So how do I go about running 2 inputs on mine?

[mudsportsman05]

Heres a pic of how I did mine. BOth on top. Other people do one on top and one on the side.

[Rebel64]

Holy crap, you're fast Mike! Thanks for that pic...I'll look closer at it when I get back on.

[Rubberdown]

I think I'll be making mine like that too Mike.

[OnlyPolaris]

what are those fittings called or what are they used for. the fittings i have now are to high. i need something short like that but can't find them.

["Bankrupt"]

i did both of mine coming out of the bottom. that way theres no hoses to have to mess with if you need to remove the lid to clean/replace the filter. plus you dont have the hoses in the way of your seat.

picture is a little hard to figure out, but this is the bottom of the airbox where the drain goes.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v298/ereagan2180/P1010697.jpg

[mudsportsman05]

popo500efi,
Mine were to high as well. They would go until they hit the airfilter but it was still way to high. SO i cut off a lot on the one end so that it would sit as low as possible in the lid.

[OnlyPolaris]

it would be nice to be able to attach the snorkels to the bottom of the air box but on the 500's the air box sits farther back in the fram which means there is no room for fitting on the bottom without hitting the engine or transmition

[stroker06]

what size tubing do you use??????? and would it hurt anything if i used exhaust tubing??

[torkmonster]

well this thread came at the right time!!! i'm trying to figure out how to run mine too.. i kinda like it coming outta the top, BUT it does make since to put it on bottom so as not to be in the way and have to mess with the darn things everytime i go about negotiating the removal of the air box lid...
one question. would the placement of tubes on bottom hinder the drain plug??????

[Rebel64]

Lots of good info and pics posted here...thanks to all for the help.

I like the idea of coming out of the bottom also. I'm going to take a close look at mine this afternoon to see just how much room is available, and how close the drain is to everything.
And I believe that 2" hose is the most common size used.

[OnlyPolaris]

correction 1.5"

[Rubberdown]

The bottom method might provide more room for the hose but if it is in the bottom and you do leak a tiny bit, that water will go right into the tube. Soooo is that a good thing ot a bad thing?

Mey be good because it will keep the water in the hose rather than in the carb, but what if it was too much water and it snuffed it out?

MAYBE 1 in the bottom and one not in the bottom would be the best possible combination, the bottom one would alow for water that MIGHT get into the box, and the upper one would still allow some air even if the bottom one did get too much water in it????

What are your guys thoughts on my ramblings????

[Riven]

I think 1.5" can be used but re-jetting is lost due to reduced flow.
Now is smooth bore hose or the ribbed type better?

No jokes about smooth or ribbed now.:preggers:

[stroker06]

im having 2in exhaust tubing bent spicifically for my snorkles and the shop im having it done at is only charging me $100 for parts and labor....

[Rebel64]

I think 1.5" can be used but re-jetting is lost due to reduced flow.
Now is smooth bore hose or the ribbed type better?

No jokes about smooth or ribbed now.:preggers:

Last nite Tim was explaining to me the differences with smooth and ribbed (yes I'm serious), but I forget all the details. Damn Jagerbombs. It had something to do with air pressures going one way vs the other, collapsing potentials...etc...I believe that's about when my eyes started to glaze over with the deer in the headlight look.

And yes, re-jetting or in my case, a programmer will be needed after the air ratios are changed. The efi computer will compensate for only so many changes (according to many opinions that I've heard).

Yes Polaris700, I still want to buy your PCIII unit.

Paul, not a bad idea at all with one on top and one on the bottom.

[Riven]

Thats not a bad price.
I had some 2" stainless pipes bent for my snorkels & it was $60 for the pipe & 3 pcs bent 180*
I also got a peace to do my exhaust snorkel as well but its not bent up yet.

[stroker06]

Thats not a bad price.
I had some 2" stainless pipes bent for my snorkels & it was $60 for the pipe & 3 pcs bent 180*
I also got a peace to do my exhaust snorkel as well but its not bent up yet.



im talkin about the whole thing were making the exhaust pipe work for all of the snorkle.

[Riven]

Last nite Tim was explaining to me the differences with smooth and ribbed (yes I'm serious), but I forget all the details. Damn Jagerbombs. It had something to do with air pressures going one way vs the other, collapsing potentials...etc...I believe that's about when my eyes started to glaze over with the deer in the headlight look.
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I'm asking because i can only get stuff that is smooth on the inside.
It has ribs on the outside for strength so it wont crush but should allow for better flow without ribs.

[Rebel64]

Here's what I think I'm going to be picking up:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MPI-livewell-or-bilge-pump-hose-Boat-marine-plumbing_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1638Q2em118QQc ategoryZ26449QQihZ011QQitemZ320147237943QQrdZ1QQss pagenameZWD1V
Looks pretty sturdy, and I don't think it will have a chance of collapsing.

[mudsportsman05]

mark, are you buying the hose through e-bay?

[Rebel64]

I think so Mike...not a bad price at $1/ft.

[mudsportsman05]

thats what I was thinking too, I am gonna try to look into the price of it from some local stores near me, and see what their price is.

[Riven]

I was just thinking about some vacuum hose i got for work a few years back it was ultra flexible but has the wire in it so it wont crush.

Here is the info i found on it at http://www.mcmaster.com/ page 204


ID
1 1/2"

OD
1 3/4"

Bend radius
1 1/8"

$2.33/ft

[OnlyPolaris]

well i went to peaver mart today and got some new fittings for the air box. they sit alot lower and will give me more room. when i was at the trailer today i forgot to look and see how much room is under the air box on a 500.

[CroatanSp700]

I got my hose and fittings off of pondparts.com. They have barbed screw in 90* that is very short and the seat goes back on fine with them on the top of the airbox.

[Dirtbmw20]

Excellent link Croatan. Those are the exact fittings that are needed, low profile and all.

[Rebel64]

#EL200P? Good link there for sure...thanks Croatan.

Would their flexible sch40 tubing work ok instead of the thicker bilge pump tubing I was considering on getting?

[BIG_T]

I thought on the 800's you couldn't put two on top due to the throttle body location.

[Rebel64]

Gawd, why does there have to be so many variables with this project? I'm getting flustered.

[OnlyPolaris]

I got my hose and fittings off of pondparts.com. They have barbed screw in 90* that is very short and the seat goes back on fine with them on the top of the airbox.

thats what my new fittings are that i just got.

[CroatanSp700]

Yea, mine fit good with the seat. Seem to work ok too


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-B4oscAdNo

[OnlyPolaris]

Yea, mine fit good with the seat. Seem to work ok too


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-B4oscAdNo

i have seen that video before and i have always wondered who's it was.

i just hope my fittings will fit under the seat or on the bottom of the air box. i looked on the home depot website and they are supposed to sell the fittings that mudsportsman uses but when i went there they ddon't have them.

[torkmonster]

well REB I got just about all I need for my snork job.... Thinkin on startin it before next weekends ride.... I should have plenty of time to get it done...

[Rebel64]

Good luck on it bro! I wish I had the time to get the rad & snorks done before next weekend.
You be sure to take progress pics of the whole thing, ok?

[torkmonster]

Yeah I will. I got it all tore apart right now... Got the front/rear diff. vents ran to headlight pod and the coolant overflow.... Gotta go back and get "THE RIGHT SIZE" tube for the carb vent... But other than that I'm ready to start on the actual SNORKELIN' of it... Gonna wait till tomorrow to start on the major stuff.... I will be sure to take some pics and post UPDATES on here though...

[OnlyPolaris]

well i checked the clearance of my new fittings and both of them will fit on the bottom of the air box.

[torkmonster]

You puttin' both on the bottom??

[torkmonster]

well other than the vents, I got one of the belt snorks started... Not sure if I'm gonna leave it on there or not cause I didn't like the way the rubber coupler fit on the metal part of the motor as it isn't perfectly round... The rubber couplers I got are kinda thick and the stock one was thin and seemed to fit better... Not sure gonna look at it tomorrow after daylight as things always look better in the day!!!:D

[torkmonster]

by the way the quad is little dirty but it hasnt had a THOUROUGH cleanin since the warm weather was here!!!!

[geonc]

Looking at the fittings at pondparts (http://www.pondparts.com/subcat229.html)..Has any one tried using the bulkheads?

Seems an easier way than fabricating a plate ...no? Depending on the physical outer most dimension, they look like they should fit along the sides or bottom of the air box and wiil provide a worry free seal.


hey...thanx for the link to pondparts!

[Rebel64]

Keep us updated on the project Torkmonster. Are you going up into the front box?

[torkmonster]

well I guess what's considered the front box.. My 04.5 doesn't have the "STORAGE BOX" as it seems all the other ones do. But yes there is a front cover that I'm gonna run it to which WOULDbe the storage box...:biggrin1:

[Rebel64]

Ok...is it just the 04.5's that don't have the box?

[torkmonster]

Hell I guess it is...... Sure wish I could make one fit but I dont see anyway less'n I cut into the darn frame.... I done tried puttin one on it!!!!!!

[Rebel64]

LOL!
All I use mine for is to carry a couple of tow straps. Damn thing has leaked from day one, so I never carry anything important up there anyway.

[OnlyPolaris]

ya i am putting both my airbox snorkels on the bottom of the box. or else i have to cut i huge hole in the bottom of my seat so there will clear the fittings.

with the belt intake i am also going to use the stock boot sinse it is thinner. it is easier to get on there. the plumbing couplers from the hardware store are to thick and i can't get it on the opening.

[torkmonster]

well, atleast ya' got one TO leak!!!!!!! but yeah hell.. I really do think mines the only one atleast of the newer polaris'....don't know bout the older polaris... Course mines old now bein 2008 and all...

[torkmonster]

ya i am putting both my airbox snorkels on the bottom of the box. or else i have to cut i huge hole in the bottom of my seat so there will clear the fittings.

with the belt intake i am also going to use the stock boot sinse it is thinner. it is easier to get on there. the plumbing couplers from the hardware store are to thick and i can't get it on the opening.

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Yeah I ran into that myself..... I guess I better look at my fittings for the airbox..... I did get some "SEEM TO BE SMALLER" fittings... But I'm gonna have ta go check make sure the seat will fit... Thats why I'm using the extra airbox lid so's I wouldn't have ta cut into it so much...

[Sportsmangrl05]

I got kind of a stupid question:

The "tranny/clutch intake on the bike"

Which is it really, isnt it a tranny intake?
I mean it goes directly into the transmission right, or does it go directly into the belt box?

I think this might be how I got the water in my tranny, I am thinking maybe that the snorkel got knocked losse or something.

[mudsportsman05]

^^^^That was suppossed to be under my name. whoops

[Rebel64]

Yep it's the belt box/clutch cover/etc.

[OnlyPolaris]

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Yeah I ran into that myself..... I guess I better look at my fittings for the airbox..... I did get some "SEEM TO BE SMALLER" fittings... But I'm gonna have ta go check make sure the seat will fit... Thats why I'm using the extra airbox lid so's I wouldn't have ta cut into it so much...

on the twins you have a bit more room to play with sinse the airbox is closer to the throttle body. so there is more room between the seet and the air box.

[mudsportsman05]

SO if that intake is for the clutch cover, How can water enter the transmission?

[torkmonster]

on the twins you have a bit more room to play with sinse the airbox is closer to the throttle body. so there is more room between the seet and the air box.

Yeah I got it figured out and about done now so... I'll post pics on them in little bit... Gotta get them on the pc...

[Dirtbmw20]

SO if that intake is for the clutch cover, How can water enter the transmission?


bad seals somewhere

[mudsportsman05]

Lee, How do seals go bad? I thought water had to get in there to make them bad?
So are seals something that are suppossed ot be changed out periodically?

[Rebel64]

Are we talking about the seal behind the plate on the primary?
If so that's an easy fix too...just pull the primary clutch, remove the 3 screws and plate, apply rtv, and put it all back together.

[mudsportsman05]

No the seals in the tranny itself.

hmmm... I wonder if i wrote polaris a letter about the situation if they would just laugh in my face or what. I am sure they will just laugh because I think they say no more than 4 inches of water, and that means that it wouldnt even reach the tranny.

[Rebel64]

LOL yeah, what do they suggest, nothing over the footwells?

[OnlyPolaris]

the water could have got in through the vent line also.

[torkmonster]

posted by rebel LOL yeah, what do they suggest, nothing over the footwells?
yeah thats what they say.....

[mudsportsman05]

Yea it would have to have been the rear ventline, I guess. I have that line extended to the pod..hmmm.. Alright thanks everyone for the info. I wasnt trying to hijack the original thread. But I couldnt understand where the water got into the tranny at.
thanks

[torkmonster]

Here are some more pics of the snork proj... I go most of it done.. I still gotta upload some of the airbox pics... I still gotta run the TOP airbox hose but I got the plate mad and on the lid and the hole cut for the fitting.. just gotta run the hose... I got everything else done and also got to replace my gasket on my exhaust that i'd been wanting to do for SOOOOO LOOOONG... where it slips on to the pipe... Just wore out I guess...

[torkmonster]

I ended up going with the "BLUE SPA HOSE" although I was leanin towards some of this "BRAIDED HOSE" but after purchasing and gettin' it home and seein how well it is NOT flexible I made another trip to the local hardware store!!! They were good about it and took it back and swapped hose for me.... Which was much appreciated...

[Rebel64]

Lookin good brudda!

[OnlyPolaris]

looks good. i got my belt exhaust on. you can see pics in my sig. still deciding what way to do it for my intake. but i am leaning toward going with the stock intake but cutting it down and putting a rubber coupler on it then.

[torkmonster]

thank ya'!!! I'll put some of the airbox and all and how I ended up runnin them to the front(NON STORAGE BOX!!!!) a little later when I get back home...
I didn't really put 'em where I was really wanting them but it is working for me.. I was afraid they would be rubbing on spring/a-arm/steering column/etc.etc.etc. but it worked out all right so far..
I can say that for anyone that wants to try and only have ONE in the airbox, IT DOESN'T WORK!!!!! not enough air... I was tryin to cheat and it was definantly starvin... I knew I'd have to put two in it.(one on bottom one on top is how I went) But was just checkin'... I read somewhere somebody was gonna try just one.. I thought about 2" hose and fittings for just the airbox and doin just one but i don't believe that woulda worked out good so I went with the 1.5...

[torkmonster]

looks good. i got my belt exhaust on. you can see pics in my sig. still deciding what way to do it for my intake. but i am leaning toward going with the stock intake but cutting it down and putting a rubber coupler on it then.

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Yeah I made a plate out of a little plexiglass and made it to go over where the stock snork goes and just holesawed a circle for my fitting to connect the hose to.... I do have yet to run the hose though..
Honestly it all went pretty fast and was easier than I thought it would be... From just reading peoples install instruction it seemed alittle complicated but.. When you get it all apart and start it's not that hard at all... (By the way it was my first snork job) And I couldn't have done it without the help of my DEAR "OLD" DAD!!!!

[Dirtbmw20]

Excellent job torkmonster !!!! It looks like everything is either pvc glued or clamped onto a fitting, very nice job. I did mine the same exact way, it is either GLUED or CLAMPED together on both my bikes, I don't have one drop of silicone on my snorkels, I did have to use some on Amy's bike but it is clamped AND siliconed on her bike.

I could have told you from personal experience, about 12 hours of experimenting, that one single hose won't cut it on the HO motor. Most of the 700's can get away with a single snorkel BUT the 700 is not an HO motor and the carb is actually smaller on a 700 than it is on our 500's, the 500's take about twice as much air as the older 700 carbed models do. Mine would run and idle just fine, drive fine until you nailed the throttle, then it just fell on it's face. It took me about 12 hours of messing with it before I drilled another hole in the air box and man oh man did it wake it right on up, right back to where it was before.

[torkmonster]

Yep thats exactly the way mine did... Thats strange the carb is smaller on the 700.. Just seems it'd be the other way around to me but, then again the 600 have more of a rev too and that was something I didn't know...

[torkmonster]

and yep thats how i did it most with pvc glue AND clamp..

[OnlyPolaris]

i'll tell you one thing, that clutch intake is a pain in the a$$. i can't even get the stock one back on so i can cut it off.

[torkmonster]

and just for future reference the vent tube on the carb for my 04.5 700 was NOT 3/8 in. tubing.. luckily though I had some the right size layin round the garage and a connector...
Don't know if some of the other models are different or not...

[torkmonster]

i'll tell you one thing, that clutch intake is a pain in the a$$. i can't even get the stock one back on so i can cut it off.
Yeah on mine it is not ROUND more kinda squarish or rectangular but more of rounded square!!! and its really close to to get that one inside part back on where its up against that clutch housing and watch out for that I guess its a rubber gasket?? right there where its real clouse to the housing...

[Riven]

I could have told you from personal experience, about 12 hours of experimenting, that one single hose won't cut it on the HO motor. Most of the 700's can get away with a single snorkel BUT the 700 is not an HO motor and the carb is actually smaller on a 700 than it is on our 500's, the 500's take about twice as much air as the older 700 carbed models do. Mine would run and idle just fine, drive fine until you nailed the throttle, then it just fell on it's face. It took me about 12 hours of messing with it before I drilled another hole in the air box and man oh man did it wake it right on up, right back to where it was before.

So a single 1.5" will be enough for my 600 then?
I was going to try & run a 2" but it looks like its enough trouble getting the 1.5 to fit nice in some of the tight spots. I dont want to run 2 lines for the carb if i dont have to.

[torkmonster]

I don't know if one would or not.. I would say it wouldn't but I dont have a 600 either.. You can always try just one and start it up and see... That's what I did... that's for the airbox right?? not the carb well which I guess ends up bein the same thing huh....

[Rebel64]

I don't know if this has to do with carbs or efi's, but I've heard that whatever is coming into the factory airbox stock, then make sure that the snorks equal that size.
So since mine is roughly a 3" opening, I'll use 2 1 1/2" hoses for the snorks.

[torkmonster]

right on... Probably both.

[Rebel64]

Maybe that'll help some folks trying to use different diameter tubing.

(just seen your post in quadsquad also...didn't know you were there too!)

[torkmonster]

Yeah..been there longer than any of them... Think i saw you on HL also...

[torkmonster]

Lots of good info on all the sites really...

[Dirtbmw20]

Riven, I'm pretty sure that one single hose would work for the 600 because the 600 is not an HO motor ...... to my knowledge. It's the HO motors that need so much air. Like torkmonster said and like I did before drilling my second hole, I would for sure at least TRY it with one hose and see. It will probally come down to how LONG your tubing is. You got to think, the longer your tubing is, the more restricted the air flow is going to be. If you could keep your hose length to a minimum, it just might work with a single.

[Riven]

Can you not re-jet if it is not getting enough air? You would drop a bit of power but i doubt it would be much.

You are right i can try one line & always add a second if i need to.

[Dirtbmw20]

Can you not re-jet if it is not getting enough air? You would drop a bit of power but i doubt it would be much.

You are right i can try one line & always add a second if i need to.

It was SO, SO drastic on my 500 that there was no way I could have re-jetted. My bike would just fall flat when the throttle was pegged, the bike wouldn't run over 20-25mph and you had to baby and feather the throttle to get it there, once pegged it would just BOOOOOOOOOOOOOG and die out unless you let off the throttle.

[torkmonster]

It was SO, SO drastic on my 500 that there was no way I could have re-jetted. My bike would just fall flat when the throttle was pegged, the bike wouldn't run over 20-25mph and you had to baby and feather the throttle to get it there, once pegged it would just BOOOOOOOOOOOOOG and die out unless you let off the throttle.

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Very very TRUE!!!!:amen:

[BIG_T]

Btw, in order to be the same size as a single 3" hose, you would need 2 hoses that were 2 1/8" in diameter. Area is a square function, not linear.
However, if you look at your intake snorkel, it's not really 3" diameter, especially further up at the top.

[Dirtbmw20]

Btw, in order to be the same size as a single 3" hose, you would need 2 hoses that were 2 1/8" in diameter. Area is a square function, not linear.





Huh ?????????????????????????? :noidea:

Me no understand, way over my head.

[Rebel64]

LMAO Lee.
Tim, quit screwing with us and speak English please!

[badmaners]

A 1 inch diameter pipe{id} has 557.6 square mm of area
A 2 inch diameter pipe{id} has 2165 square mm of area
A 3 inch diameter pipe{id} has 4769 square mm of area

So, you would need 2 2inch to be aprox the same as a 3 inch
Hope it helps

[torkmonster]

so how bout the length of the hose??? wouldn't that be a variable in it all????

[Dirtbmw20]

so how bout the length of the hose??? wouldn't that be a variable in it all????


YES, it will be a variable.

Here is a post from the last page where that is EXACTLY what I speak of. The very last two sentences.


Riven, I'm pretty sure that one single hose would work for the 600 because the 600 is not an HO motor ...... to my knowledge. It's the HO motors that need so much air. Like torkmonster said and like I did before drilling my second hole, I would for sure at least TRY it with one hose and see. It will probally come down to how LONG your tubing is. You got to think, the longer your tubing is, the more restricted the air flow is going to be. If you could keep your hose length to a minimum, it just might work with a single.

[Dirtbmw20]

LMAO Lee.
Tim, quit screwing with us and speak English please!

Tell me about it. Speak ENGLISH please................ and you gotta speak slow for us NON engineered fellas,lol.

And then badmaners wants to go and throw another monkey wrench in the equation and start out with an american measurement and end with a metric conversion. My noggin hurts now.

[torkmonster]

YES, it will be a variable.

Here is a post from the last page where that is EXACTLY what I speak of. The very last two sentences.


Riven, I'm pretty sure that one single hose would work for the 600 because the 600 is not an HO motor ...... to my knowledge. It's the HO motors that need so much air. Like torkmonster said and like I did before drilling my second hole, I would for sure at least TRY it with one hose and see. It will probally come down to how LONG your tubing is. You got to think, the longer your tubing is, the more restricted the air flow is going to be. If you could keep your hose length to a minimum, it just might work with a single.

yeah i did read that... they're trying to get exact with iit & was wondering wat the ratio might be.....

[torkmonster]

ya know with all the engineers around and all!!!!!!!

[Dirtbmw20]

LOL, yea.... I know.

[badmaners]

Tell me about it. Speak ENGLISH please................ and you gotta speak slow for us NON engineered fellas,lol.

And then badmaners wants to go and throw another monkey wrench in the equation and start out with an american measurement and end with a metric conversion. My noggin hurts now.

Sorry, I was trying to show that the area in a circle is not linear. This means 2 x 1.5 inches does not equal 3 inches.
As far as the length goes, think like this, if you had to suck a golfball through a hose, it would be easier if it was shorter. LOL.

[badmaners]

Sorry, I was trying to show that the area in a circle is not linear. This means 2 x 1.5 inches does not equal 3 inches.
As far as the length goes, think like this, if you had to suck a golfball through a hose, it would be easier if it was shorter. LOL.

Oh ya...1 inch equals 25.4 mm
25.4 x 25.4 =645.16 sq mm or 1 sq inch

[Dirtbmw20]

:thumb:

[Rebel64]

So...stick with two 2" hoses then for the airbox, correct?

[Dirtbmw20]

So...stick with two 2" hoses then for the airbox, correct?

The short and simple answer for you and me to understand is YES. If you want it explained and mapped out, just wait for Tim or badmaners to come back, they'll square root it for ya and lay it out in a pie chart,lmao.

[Rebel64]

That's the kind of answer I like! :)

[OnlyPolaris]

wouldn't 2 1.5" hoses be good enough for the 800

[torkmonster]

:doh::help:The short and simple answer for you and me to understand is YES. If you want it explained and mapped out, just wait for Tim or badmaners to come back, they'll square root it for ya and lay it out in a pie chart,lmao.

wouldn't 2 1.5" hoses be good enough for the 800

QUOTE THE QUESTIONS!!!
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:doh::help:[

[torkmonster]

Honestly mine seems to run fine with the 2-1.5 hoses to it and actually Well since I did seal up my exhaust where the White bros. E2 exhaust it SEEMS to RUN BETTER... Mabye i shoulda waited to seal it up to see if it made a diff????

[mudsportsman05]

Is it possible to do the intake snorkels completly in PVC rather than the spa hose?
Off my memory It seems Like I could make my one snorkel work, but the other one that runs underneath the gas tank I am not sure. DOes anyone know if 1.5 will fit through there?

[torkmonster]

I'm gonna find out TOMORROW

[mudsportsman05]

Thanks Tork, I would but my wheeler is 100 miles away. I am assumming it doesnt fit because I would think if it did, a lot of people would be doing it. BUt hopefully it does.

[torkmonster]

Is it possible to do the intake snorkels completly in PVC rather than the spa hose?
Off my memory It seems Like I could make my one snorkel work, but the other one that runs underneath the gas tank I am not sure. DOes anyone know if 1.5 will fit through there?

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Someone said to me at the hardware place why didn't judt use the hard pipe(PVC) and just bend it the way I needed it...
I thought about it and.......... I came up with..... THAT would be QUITE the funny situation.. I would be doing alotta lookin bendin' and more lookin' with alottA MORE BENDIN'!!!!!!!!

[torkmonster]

Last nite Tim was explaining to me the differences with smooth and ribbed (yes I'm serious), but I forget all the details. Damn Jagerbombs. It had something to do with air pressures going one way vs the other, collapsing potentials...etc...I believe that's about when my eyes started to glaze over with the deer in the headlight look.

And yes, re-jetting or in my case, a programmer will be needed after the air ratios are changed. The efi computer will compensate for only so many changes (according to many opinions that I've heard).

Yes Polaris700, I still want to buy your PCIII unit.

Paul, not a bad idea at all with one on top and one on the bottom.

So.......
From what I rode of it ... Mind that I haven't ran the hose for the top but,,,, I HAVE cut the hole for the TOP OF LID.. I will have to RE-JET??????

[mudsportsman05]

thats very true, but I figure if it does work, I would feel much more comfertable with solid pvc versus the spa hose.

[torkmonster]

me also mudspman..... mabye after It's ALL done and I'll take it to a guy I TRUST and e can MEASURE EACH AND INDIVIDUAL CURVE AND BEND in it I will..
There is TWO guys that I think Could do it and I will talk to them once everything is set-up AND I KNOW it is all runnin right.....
Once the ENGINEERS come back and decide which they think is right!!!!!!!!!!
THE RATIO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Dirtbmw20]

It CAN be done with all pvc if that is what you wanted, the kit that boyou snorkels sells is all pvc except the intake snorkel which they just stick up behind the gas tank. Just wait till you have to work on the bike and you have to tear the snorkels completely apart just because they are hard piped. If you don't believe me, ask ole RubberDown about it. He had boyou do his snorkels while he was at mud nats and they were done all in hard pvc pipe and later on down the road when he had to work on the bike, I remember him cussing like hell because it all had to be tore completely apart just to do something simple like pull an axle or something like that. That is why we all use the flex hose. SO....... of course it can be done in all pvc but you got to think ahead and see what kinda troubles will lie ahead because of hard piping it.

[mudsportsman05]

alright, thanks LEe, If I do It I am planning on putting in some unions so it can at least be taken down in SECTIONS.

[OnlyPolaris]

i remember that. rd was getting pretty mad.

[torkmonster]

It'd be hard enough to get to certain things as it is with the SPA HOSE... I can only IMAGINE how it'd be with hard down plastic(PVC)

[crsbear400]

well I guess what's considered the front box.. My 04.5 doesn't have the "STORAGE BOX" as it seems all the other ones do. But yes there is a front cover that I'm gonna run it to which WOULDbe the storage box...:biggrin1:


Just a little FYI, the owners of the pre-'05 Model Sportsmans can be fitted with a front box with little to no modification. You can use the front box from an '05 Polaris 330 4x4. The part # is 1252538 for the assymbly. Here are pics of one installed on an '02 Sp700.

http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=772756527&context=set-72157600754390900&size=l
http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=772756859&context=set-72157600754390900&size=l
http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=773628806&context=set-72157600754390900&size=l
http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=772754203&context=set-72157600754390900&size=l
http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=773651048&context=set-72157600754390900&size=l

[torkmonster]

so your tellin me that I, (bein me) Have been lied to????
By the Closest and dearest"????
You sure???? 04.5????

[crsbear400]

so your tellin me that I, (bein me) Have been lied to????
By the Closest and dearest"????
You sure???? 04.5????

Huh???

[torkmonster]

Huh???

That it would FIT mine....

[OnlyPolaris]

i think it would.

[torkmonster]

WITH THE EXPLORER PLASTIC!!!!!!! (:>so your tellin me that I, (bein me) Have been lied to????
By the Closest and dearest"????
You sure???? 04.5????